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Post by kate1 on May 5, 2017 13:54:45 GMT -5
I don't think it's laughable at all and how do you know I wasn't there? Didn't you know RBH? How do you know what he did? You read about about the case and looked at some buildings? Exactly! Just like the rest of us.
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Post by kate1 on May 5, 2017 13:49:01 GMT -5
I don't think it's laughable at all and how do you know I wasn't there? Did you know RBH? How do you know what he did? You read about about the case and looked at some buildings? Exactly! Just like the rest of us.
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Post by kate1 on May 5, 2017 13:45:08 GMT -5
On a rotting corpse? He didn't go into dentistry but I believe his grandfather Land had an influence on his interest in science. His inspection was so quick and deliberate I think he was looking for something.
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Post by kate1 on May 5, 2017 13:43:52 GMT -5
On a rotting corpse? He didn't go into dentistry but I believe his grandfather Land had an influence on his interest in science. His inspection was so quick and deliberate I think he was looking for something.
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Post by kate1 on May 5, 2017 9:37:37 GMT -5
Rickets can mask other conditions. I'll look up a differential diagnosis.
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Post by kate1 on May 5, 2017 8:38:43 GMT -5
This little baby so reminds me of the child in the book Before and After Zachariah. Beautiful child with severe mental developmental issues that only the mother recognized until an ER doc told her he was profoundly retarded mentally. Eventually he was institutionalized because the family couldn't keep him at home. Heartbroken mom. I think Anne knew.
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Post by kate1 on May 5, 2017 8:36:02 GMT -5
Just some thoughts on what happened to the Lindbergh baby. What if CAL wasn't counting the teeth to determine the number but rather abnormalities present and identifiable. And what if the original heighth given ( in terms of inches which babies are measured ) was correct? Perhaps that was the reason for the letter to Mrs. Morrow was to establish further the 33 inches. I don't possibly know how the flight with oxygen deprivation could not damage a 7 month old fetus. Arrested development for sure. Again, keeping an open mind, what if the baby also suffered from Cleidcranial Dysplasia? Looking at the symptoms and some of the baby's characteristics it seems to fit. Not a life threatening but on top of possible serious developmental delays it would probably frighten any good eugenicist Symptoms of this include: low bone density, sometimes requiring high doses of vitamin D; Large openings in the bones of the skull (fontenelles); Short stature, 29 inches would be off the charts for length percentiles for a 20 month old; And finally teeth are effected requiring extensive dental work and often speech therapy. I think for those of us who think CAL was involved in the kidnapping this might offer some thought. I'm trying to keep an open mind
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Post by kate1 on May 2, 2017 19:31:45 GMT -5
I subscribe to the notion that the board wasn't in the attic when BRH appropriated it for the ladder. Obtaining it from the basement or other location where it had been stored since the electricians had cut it to make way for wiring seems like a good theory. When BRH claims he never did the cutting and removal from the attic, he is telling the truth (for a change!) and was probably shocked to hear during the trial of the proof its previous use was attic flooring. since I was in hauptmans apt I took pictures of the opening in that linen closet and it isn't small. what really is crazy you had to take the shelves out to climb up there.i would like to know if the hatch that's there now, was there when Hauptman lived there or did the police put it in later after the arrest It wasn't a convenient spot from which to obtain a board.
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Post by kate1 on May 2, 2017 19:17:29 GMT -5
I agree! And the baby had a cold yet the window was left open ands he room was so cold the nurse warmed her hands on a space heater?
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Post by kate1 on May 2, 2017 4:32:08 GMT -5
I enjoyed Gardner's book immensely! Waller's was simply a primer and without so much of what makes up this case, I think. The more we read the more we know or maybe the more we don't!
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Post by kate1 on May 1, 2017 18:50:51 GMT -5
Book I read years after Kidnap by Waller. Totally different presentation of Hauptmann.
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Post by kate1 on May 1, 2017 18:50:28 GMT -5
Scathma, have you read Scapegoat by Anthont Scaduto?
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Post by kate1 on Apr 30, 2017 12:55:57 GMT -5
Can't wait for you to finish!
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Post by kate1 on Apr 29, 2017 6:37:59 GMT -5
If that were the case it seems to me the symbol was given a lot of thought. It was dreamed up before even a choice of victims was made. The ladder has always been a problem for me because of several things. First it's construction. It was flimsy at best. Wouldn't someone who was about to commit the crime of the century at least try it out on a similar building? Hauptmann wasn't just a handy man with tools but a professional carpenter who had earned a living in construction. Secondly it's impossible for me to believe he climbed up a tiny opening in the ceiling which I believe was inside a closet to get a piece of lumber when he had access to an unlimited amount. If this piece were to fit the missing attic board it would have had to be planed quite a bit after its removal. Why would anyone do that? If anyone had been watching the Lindbergh house they would have known a ladder was behind the house and not risked being seen with one in the car. In a low traffic area ( Linddbergh chose this location because of its isolation) why risk someone seeing you with a 3 piece ladder in your car? Better yet, prior to the night, why not hide a sturdy ladder in the vast woods around the estate? Of course this leads me to the lucky coincidence of the baby being at the house the very night RBH was picking his wife up from work in another state...that's for another discussion!
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Post by kate1 on Apr 27, 2017 17:53:36 GMT -5
Yes it was!
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Post by kate1 on Apr 27, 2017 17:30:59 GMT -5
I've always wondered about delayed development in Charlie because of that. So many babies suffer from Cerebal Palsy because of oxygen deprivation shortly before or during birth. Children with CP usually look quite "normal" and deficits don't show up until developmental milestones aren't reached. One newspaper article mentioned the baby was just beginning to walk...at 20 month!,
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Post by kate1 on Apr 27, 2017 17:18:29 GMT -5
Betty used fabric from Elsie. The scalloped edge was what made the shirt identifiable and that was part of a rag or discarded undergarment. Strange item to be putting under an A.Altman shirt.
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Post by kate1 on Apr 27, 2017 17:18:11 GMT -5
I think the thumb guard was put there the day it was found and by someone who knew who would be walking there. Silly to make a shirt unless it was for future identification. Had they never used Vicks rub before? If it was that cold, why open the window? The kid had cold and it's so chilly in the room a space heater was plugged in so the nurse's hands wouldn't be cold! Poor baby!
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Post by kate1 on Apr 27, 2017 17:09:21 GMT -5
You are so right Amy! Taking her on that high altitude, low oxygen cross country trip was just cruel 7 months pregnant or not! Family was well educated and sophisticated enough to figure out what Charles Lindbergh was. Poor Anne.
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Post by kate1 on Apr 27, 2017 7:04:55 GMT -5
Scathma, I disagree about Anne and viewing the corpse. Just being told the baby's body was found in a wooded area after two months would be enough to let anyone know of the decompensation. I'm sure I would want to see any baby, let alone my own, in that condition. I believe she was comforted by her last weekend with the baby as she described in her diary.
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Post by kate1 on Apr 27, 2017 6:55:11 GMT -5
I agree Hauptmann was a scapegoat. I could believe that Hauptmann, if guilty, would have viewed his life as over essentially, and that Anna would have totally rejected him. But what does that say about Anna who swore he was with her that night. I agree with your husband's astute observation about the ladder! Cannot believe a carpenter would build a ladder that wouldn't hold his weight nor calculate for the weight of his child. The idea that anyone with access to plenty of lumber (and good reason to have those boards) would climb up into an attic to bring a board down is ridiculous to me.
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Post by kate1 on Apr 23, 2017 13:53:57 GMT -5
Amy, hope you don't mind my commenting but the funeral home most likely would provide a blanket unless the family wanted to provide one which would be understandable. My memories are of a blanket being taken with the baby, and you are right about B. Alton. This was where the undershirts were purchased.
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Post by kate1 on Apr 22, 2017 19:22:21 GMT -5
Just found Baby in the Crib! Trying to find info on Marguarite Junge and her involvement. All the Morrow servants seemed to have some kind of past.
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Post by kate1 on Apr 20, 2017 17:50:48 GMT -5
Does anyone else find it strange that during the depression Morrows hired so many staff from out of the country? Not only that but so many were disfunctional or at least had behaviors that would have been abhorrent to Morrows/Lindberghs. I believe Whatleys were hired by Morrows as a wedding gift to Charles and Anne.
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Post by kate1 on Apr 16, 2017 19:58:19 GMT -5
It's been a long time but didn't someone involved in the LKC have a middle name of Faulkner? I'll try to find it but I'm not sure where to start!
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Post by kate1 on Apr 11, 2017 8:02:11 GMT -5
I can't add much to this discussion but wanted to say my dad's family has a long history in law enforcement (my great aunt Nellie rode in a car with John Dillenger) and my dad remembers people coming to their little rural Indiana town and discussing the kidnapping with my grandfather who was sheriff at the time. When I asked my dad years ago why Hauptmann would not confess he said he might have been protecting family. He was a prosecutor at the time and appreciated how criminals thought! That being said I don't think that sounds like the antisocial personality that some believe Hauptmann was.
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Post by kate1 on Apr 4, 2017 16:54:49 GMT -5
Hauptmann joked about having "millions" back in Germany when asked about his finances.
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Post by kate1 on Apr 3, 2017 9:10:22 GMT -5
I think people were starving in Germany after WWI. One of the children the Ten Boom's cared for later became a Nazi. I also believe the economic climate post WWI lead to the rise of Fascism. The Hiding Place, written about the Ten Booms clearly states these children were sent abroad because their families were unable to feed them...the Ten Boom's were not prosperous either but there was a contrast between the countries
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Post by kate1 on Apr 2, 2017 6:32:52 GMT -5
Amy, I don't think I have read Hauptmann's autobiography but I do remember reading something about his childhood. He was especially close to his mom? Was he gassed during WWI? His brothers died in the war? Definitely believe horrific events can cause PTSD. People's coping skills differ so greatly and personality disorders are formed in childhood but don't appear until an individual is an adult, but that said I agree. I think what Hauptmann did throughout his life ( what I know about it!) was cope with whatever he had to deal with. He married, had a child, had friends and worked. No crimes committed in US. I don't see anything except hoarding gold notes. Many Depression survivors here hoarded most of their lives! Nothing that would lead me to think he had any psychopathology.
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Post by kate1 on Mar 27, 2017 19:21:41 GMT -5
Would very much like to more about George Curtis.
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