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Post by kate1 on Jun 5, 2017 14:43:29 GMT -5
Looking it up but I very recently read that and that's why I started this.
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Post by kate1 on Jun 5, 2017 14:43:08 GMT -5
I don't know about Fisch but I read it on old posts here. Red didn't flee And he had a reason but that's where he was when arrested.
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Post by kate1 on Jun 5, 2017 7:41:40 GMT -5
Woman in the bakery with ransom money, Red flees to Conn. Immediately after baby disappears, Fisch also goes after baby's body is found. Cayce, called in by CAL's people says baby was taken to Conn. Trying to find their destinations in Connecticut to see if there is any possible connection or not. Just curious.
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Post by kate1 on Jun 5, 2017 7:32:40 GMT -5
FWIW, in terms of a "Connecticut connection" to the LKC, I seem to recall that a ransom bill was passed at a business location in CT days after Condon gave the money to CJ at St. Raymond's. The person who received the ransom bill (again IIRC) was able to provide a description of the passer to authorities. Thank you for this post...this what I'm trying to pull together in my own mind. Working on going back to sources I have when I can.
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Post by kate1 on Jun 5, 2017 3:55:23 GMT -5
Amy, so long ago. Found the book at a library in Indpls. Will research and see if I can find it somewhere. Thank you for the info!
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Post by kate1 on Jun 4, 2017 18:04:02 GMT -5
I have not looked into the Edgar Cayce angle. I have Theon Wright's book but I really have not read it cover to cover. I admit I am more interested in a Fisch/Condon connection when it comes to the LKC. I had forgotten Wright mentioned Cayce in his book. I read a book about Cayce's errors written by his sons years ago. Cayce did thousands of readings and was very accurate usually. His son had theories about why he was wrong or misunderstood in the TLK.
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Post by kate1 on Jun 4, 2017 10:48:25 GMT -5
Amy, I'm trying to read past post and they are sooo good, but I need to take some notes to try to tie some of this together in my mind! Always interested to hear your ideas.
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Post by kate1 on Jun 4, 2017 6:19:26 GMT -5
Reading through old posts I see Connecticut appear in context with differing people, (Fisch fled there after the baby's body was found? ). Wondering if anyone tied some of these together. I know Edgar Cayce did a reading and had said the baby was in Connecticut and he was seldom wrong.
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Post by kate1 on Jun 3, 2017 9:02:53 GMT -5
That is so like living in the country! We lived on a gravel road in Michigan with only 5 houses on the mile stretch. At night it was very, very dark and not safe to negotiate far from the house without an outside light. Going up a ladder to a window with no lighting, especially that "ladder", would seem suicidal. When I read Douglas's book I had the Iimpression he had not carefully studied the case. The fact that Hauptmann was a carpenter makes it difficult to tie that "ladder" to him". I doubt he would have climbed up that let alone come down it again, with or without the baby. Add to that, its wet and windy! Also can't understand why anyone would do that when there was even a chance the window would be locked?? Not really good footing and it would seem the dog would be the least of an individual's problems.
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Post by kate1 on Jun 3, 2017 3:08:42 GMT -5
I agree. Again I think about what the pig woman said. Seems like a lot of neighbors knew a lot about the Lindberghs. And she was right about the baby being close by! Amy, wasn't CAL's excuse for honking the car horn when he returned so Whatley could open the garage door? Wouldn't he also shut and lock it? I can't imagine that CAL would stand around and wait to find out.
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Post by kate1 on Jun 3, 2017 2:47:54 GMT -5
I also believe insulin shock therapy was beginning about this time!
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Post by kate1 on Jun 3, 2017 2:47:37 GMT -5
You might enjoy F.Scott Fitzgerald's book "Tender is the Night". His wife Zelda was a schizophrenic.
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Post by kate1 on Jun 2, 2017 18:24:50 GMT -5
Pharmaceuticals prescribed and monitored correctly are literally lifesavers especially in the field of mental health. Conditions such as Obessive Compulsive Disorder had no treatment that was effective until SSRI's came along. Schizophrenia is treated as successfully as possible with drugs. The other mental illness, bipolar disorder is also treated with pharmaceuticals; all of these were not were not available 50 years ago. Also I don't think Dwight Morrow had anything that resembled a mental illness or personality disorder. Maybe what may have been on the autism spectrum. Seemed hyper focused which definitely worked to his advantage in business.
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Post by kate1 on Jun 2, 2017 15:51:14 GMT -5
I know those windows seal with the locks, had some like that myself, but my house was about 50 years old so the windows rattled pretty good, and an expensive fix. We think of Anne Lindbergh as always being pretty stable, but she could have been nearly out of her mind at the (extremely is too mild a word) unbelievably impossible kidnapping that happened at their middle of nowhere setting. So maybe not correct in all of her statements. If the second story windows were opened and shut twice a day I could not see any reason why they would be locked especially if the shutters were latched. Seems very inconvenient to keep locking and unlocking a window. I'm not clear in my own mind exactly how the shutters were left that night. Were they pulled together and just left unlocked or was on shutter open against the house ant the other pulled to? Always just supposed they were both pulled shut but not latched.
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Post by kate1 on Jun 2, 2017 15:37:35 GMT -5
I guess if the neighbors could peer in the windows then CAL probably wasted a lot of potential ransom money on that 400+ acres of desolate farmland, Joe.
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Post by kate1 on May 31, 2017 20:10:56 GMT -5
Psychiatrists in the 1920's and 30's pretty much were blaming schizophrenia on poor parenting, specifically mothering. Freudian psychology colored everything then. Wouldn't put too much trust into any psychiatric work in those days. Ask Rosemary Kennedy.
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Post by kate1 on May 31, 2017 20:00:50 GMT -5
I've read that somewhere I Think about the Lindbergh house resembling a fishbowl because it was lacking curtains. Which "neighbors" could have lived that closely to see in the windows? Thought the lane was a half mile or so to the house. Weren't there thick woods around the house?
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Post by kate1 on May 29, 2017 16:20:14 GMT -5
Lindbergh had many sons, some we may not even know about.
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Post by kate1 on May 26, 2017 10:29:43 GMT -5
I want hat book too! Hope she covered the part where she worried about the baby at the first farmhouse! And maybe about the kidnapping plot of her sister. I'm not sure I buy the part about "what were you doing all day in NYC" though.
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Post by kate1 on May 26, 2017 0:26:14 GMT -5
That's right. The incidents at their farm house alone should have indicated their vulnerability. His explanation seems weak. The baby probably wasn't afraid at all and he ended up dead! It's one thing not to be concerned about your own safety but those you love? Especially an infant! Odd statement that I think says a lot.
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Post by kate1 on May 25, 2017 13:31:03 GMT -5
Everyone here knows so much that it's just intimidating!!
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Post by kate1 on May 25, 2017 9:24:35 GMT -5
Scathma, I would like a copy of CAL's book....most entertaining thing I've read recently! Thank you for the chuckle. I would have gone for Anne. Her family would have acted quickly I think.
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Post by kate1 on May 25, 2017 6:39:58 GMT -5
Really though, if he was so aware of the wave of kidnappings why was he so relaxed about security? He left his sick wife and baby alone the night before.
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Post by kate1 on May 24, 2017 15:01:26 GMT -5
I think he might have checked with the rest of the staff. Good point about his "practical jokes". I might have thiught Anne and Betty were trying one on me.they lived in the middle of nowhere. How would he possibly have seen anything especially on a night like that. He obviously realized it would do no good to look out a window. But he knew the baby wasn't there. Truthfully I'm surprised he allowed the staff to look through the house once he had proclaimed the disappearence a kidnapping.
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Post by kate1 on May 23, 2017 15:35:19 GMT -5
Mrs Whatley had helped with the baby before Betty Gow came. I don't think anyone checked with her. She thought the baby had died.
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Post by kate1 on May 23, 2017 10:47:51 GMT -5
Does anyone else believe CAL's reaction the night the baby disappeared was a little impulsive? The nurse tells him the baby's gone. He rushes upstairs and quickly looks in the crib, then grabs a rifle and tells the butler to call the police. This seems out of character for someone who is so attentive to detail and has remained calm in many near misses while flying. What did he plan to do with the rifle?
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Post by kate1 on May 23, 2017 4:49:44 GMT -5
Interesting thought! It would make sense to me that someone else would be there in case CJ was arrested. That could so easily have happened. Too bad these things weren't investigated before the trial.o
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Post by kate1 on May 23, 2017 4:45:28 GMT -5
Cemetery guard Riehl saw something, and someone, very much different than Condon, and much of this has to do with their individual lines of sight. In a nutshell, I don't believe Riehl ever saw CJ, the man Condon was talking to, but saw an accomplice on the side closest to him and on top of one of the large stone columns at the Woodlawn front gates. During the excitement and confusion created by Riehls's sudden appearance, CJ, who was standing on the ground, clambered over the iron fence directly in front of Condon and took off. Condon's interest was now focused on the fleeing CJ, but he waited long enough to shout to Riehl that everything was alright. As Condon turned to take chase after CJ, Riehl never saw Condon well enough to take in his features, and so as Condon hurried after CJ, Riehl confused him for a younger, and clean-shaven man. In the meantime, the accomplice who was dressed in lighter coloured clothing, whom Condon had never even noticed due to his intentionally camouflaged position on the white stone column, the same man originally seen by Riehl, took off in a different direction. Later, while talking with CJ at the tennis shack, Condon sensed CJ was aware of, or on the lookout for his younger accomplice, who could well have returned and was somewhere nearby.
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Post by kate1 on May 22, 2017 18:16:00 GMT -5
I've always thought it interesting that the upper story windows had a different type of shutters than the lower windows. Maybe the slats were to let in air when the windows were open and the shutters closed. Probably... I don't think residential a/c was around in 1932. Seems like shutters are used that way in southern houses. I've seen fairly recent pictures of Highfields with window a/c units so it still hasn't been put in. According to Behn, the house had air conditioning. Just came across that while re-reading his biography.
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Post by kate1 on May 21, 2017 6:23:26 GMT -5
Overlooked anniversary of the Bath, Michigan school disaster too.
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