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Post by rick3 on Apr 1, 2007 3:42:05 GMT -5
- Balance, abstract symbolism,symmetry and geometry (big G) of the vesica pisces/
- A Blue Lodge is the 1st 3 degrees to Master Mason. Red could represent blood or bloodlines/ BLUE = WATER; RED=FIRE!
- Even Jack the Ripper was thought to connect to freemasonry by some authors(see Rippers Notes)/
www.lindberghkidnappinghoax.com/ripper%20notes.pdf
- the VP represents the sacred geometry of Euclids 1st theorem and the square roots of 2,3,5 and a key element of Lodge ritual/
- the 3-runged ladder and chisel are obvious symbols in masonic ritual/
- Hiram Abiff is killed in masonic ritual and then reborn/
- the 2-fish squiggles are YODS--the point in circle and "G" in French Lodges (not SS)/see:
www.phoenixmasonry.org/masonicmuseum/sr_pyramid_with_14th_degree_ring.htm
- two YODS are St. John the Evangelist and John the Baptist/
- 3 (holds) are also a sacred # (3 pillars; faith,hope,charity)/ 3-holes, 2 circles, 2 yods?
- masonry = secrecy/ codes and symbolism
- CAL had masonic good luck symbols on the Spirit of St. Louis
- Either CAL recognizes the masonic symbols or creates the masonic symbols in order to send a coded message to brothers for aid and assistance: eg. no brother can reveal any secret about another brother that costs him life or property.
- all Jewes and Catholics are summarily excluded.
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Post by Michael on Apr 1, 2007 9:36:11 GMT -5
Good to see you back up and running Rick....and happy be-lated birfday to you.
I'll see what I can dig up and post on this. I know there were several people back then making the claim this symbol was somehow connected to The Free Masons. I am beginning to think more and more that the "Fish" connection to this symbol might have some merit.
By the way, Schwarzkopf was a Mason too.
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Post by rita on Apr 1, 2007 11:41:04 GMT -5
Hi Rick Wonder if Masons have something that parallels a secret hit squad similar to CIA or Mafia. The local Masonic temple had partner owners affiliated to Mafia I will not name. If true could be the reason for Rosner connection, and of course they would have used others not fully understanding what the outcome would be?
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Post by rick3 on Apr 2, 2007 6:23:33 GMT -5
Michael...there should be no shortage of MMs amongst the rich, powerful and priveledged. FDR is 32 degree Scottish Rite. Wild Bill Donovan (OSS) is a Knight of Malta. We should check: JEHoover, Morrows, Hoffman, Condon and Curtis for starters. Maybe even Gaston Means? "The Master-Builder suffers within or in himself- as a testimony of personal faith and honor in respect to his engagements. But thereafter he rises, and it is this which gives a peculiar characteristic to the descriptive title of the Degree. It is one of raising and of reunion with companions- almost as if Hiram Abiff had been released from earthly life and had entered into the true Land of the Living. The keynote is therefore not one of dying but one of a living resurrection and immortality; and yet it is not said in the legend that the Master rose" (eg Hiram Abiff was not resurrected, but was reburied) (3rd degree ritual) see pages 7-8 below: www.bonisteelml.org/RISING_POINT_winter06.pdf"
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Post by rick3 on Apr 4, 2007 11:37:39 GMT -5
Ill. John Edgar Hoover was just as devoted to his Masonic Brothers. He was raised a Master Mason on November 9, 1920, in Federal Lodge No. 1, Washington, DC, just two months before his 26th birthday. During his 52 years with the Craft, he received innumerable medals, awards and decorations. In 1955, for instance, he was coroneted a Thirty-third Degree Inspector General Honorary and awarded the Scottish Rite's highest recognition, the Grand Cross of Honour, in 1965. www.srmason-sj.org/council/temple/Templetour/specialcoll.htmlHeres CALs pedigree: "Lindbergh received his degrees in Keystone Lodge No. 243, St. Louis, Mo., June 9, Oct. 20, and Dec. 15, 1926, and is a life member of that lodge. He is also a member of St. Louis Chapter No. 33, National Sojourners, and the Sciots of San Diego, Calif." (Transactions of the Missouri Lodge of Research, 1959, Vol. III, pp. 87-88). On his history-making flight, Lindbergh is said to have worn a patch with a Square and Compasses on his flying jacket.
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Post by rita on Apr 4, 2007 22:58:06 GMT -5
The back door to the different masonic degrees provide the connection between politics, business, justice, and the underworld. It was most likely glue that allowed the joke of justice that prevailed in the kidnap investigation and Hauptmann Case.
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Post by Isis and Osiris on Jun 20, 2009 13:21:20 GMT -5
Ill. John Edgar Hoover was just as devoted to his Masonic Brothers. He was raised a Master Mason on November 9, 1920, in Federal Lodge No. 1, Washington, DC, just two months before his 26th birthday. During his 52 years with the Craft, he received innumerable medals, awards and decorations. In 1955, for instance, he was coroneted a Thirty-third Degree Inspector General Honorary and awarded the Scottish Rite's highest recognition, the Grand Cross of Honour, in 1965. www.srmason-sj.org/council/temple/Templetour/specialcoll.htmlHeres CALs pedigree: "Lindbergh received his degrees in Keystone Lodge No. 243, St. Louis, Mo., June 9, Oct. 20, and Dec. 15, 1926, and is a life member of that lodge. He is also a member of St. Louis Chapter No. 33, National Sojourners, and the Sciots of San Diego, Calif." (Transactions of the Missouri Lodge of Research, 1959, Vol. III, pp. 87-88). On his history-making flight, Lindbergh is said to have worn a patch with a Square and Compasses on his flying jacket. down a bit in this thread we find "CAL is a MM at Arbustus Lodge 170 in St Louis (1927)/...? Seems unlikely CAL would have been initiated into two different Lodges in consecutive years?
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Post by jack7 on Jun 27, 2009 20:42:32 GMT -5
Vesica Pisces is a real possibility - though it creates more of a question than an answer. Information about Roslyn D'O Stephenson, perhaps an MD can be found in "Jack The Ripper: The Final Solution," by Stephen Knight. Again, more questions are asked than answered, but the name Stephenson closely aligns with another Ripper suspect, J.K. Stephen who was Eddy's homosexual lover (Eddy was Duke of Clarence and heir to the British throne) and tutor. Stephenson seemed to have information which only the killer would have. More to follow...
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Post by jack7 on Jun 27, 2009 20:54:29 GMT -5
Jack For Rick: Some inside information - Stephen Knight really went after the Masons and their involvement (which he believed) in the Ripper Murders. Knight died a very young and untimely death. His last book was "The Brotherhood, The Explosive Expose' Of The Secret World Of The Freemasons." I think he actually infiltrated them - and they don't like that. Jack
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Post by kevkon on Jun 28, 2009 9:50:37 GMT -5
Jack, I know Freemasonry is mysterious to many, but the core values are civic responsibility and religious tolerance. What's wrong with that?
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Post by jack7 on Jun 28, 2009 10:06:19 GMT -5
Kevkon: Nothing, but there is a different philosophy at the upper levels.
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Post by kevkon on Jun 28, 2009 10:23:16 GMT -5
You can't get to a higher degree with a different philosophy.
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Post by jack7 on Jun 28, 2009 21:35:37 GMT -5
That's not true Kevkon, and perhaps you should learn more about it - it's all at the library. Read about 32 degree. It's interesting, but then again it probably doesn't account for much regarding crime nowdays - although who knows - it is suspicious. Knight goes into it extensively, especially in "The Brotherhood," though Knight's data should be checked against actual Masonry literature. But hey, Masons - I'm cool - I just told him to go to the library.
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Post by kevkon on Jun 28, 2009 22:18:11 GMT -5
Ok, Jack. I can't go further with this.
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