MORE ON THEOSOPHY THAN YOU EVER WANTED TO KNOW Apr 7, 2008 18:31:44 GMT -5
Post by Michael on Apr 7, 2008 18:31:44 GMT -5
MORE ON THEOSOPHY THAN YOU EVER WANTED TO KNOW
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"Is there anything tangible that connects the two?" (Birritella's Spiritualist Church & Theosophy)
I have been working on this like a rabid woman today, let me tell you. I am learning lots about Theosophy & even think I'm beginning to connect some dots (no pun intended). But my strong suit has always been finding the info rather than analyzing it. But this time I'm trying. I'm immersing myself into this Theosophy. Sorry such a long post but I'm trying to get enough info so we can all kind of brainstorm on this together hopefully.
First of all, I generally try not to disrespect the religion of others. But this is just one weird religion. It was in a league all its own when it came to the "spiritualist Churches" so popular during that era. It seems so "made up". Some weird tapestry of beliefs. Its not like any sort formal Christianity. Indeed, some Theosophy concepts defy Catholicism as evidenced by its embracing the 666 because that is how two upside triangles add up. Nor does it seem to embrace regular Eastern concepts of religion either, (such as Buddhism) which I usually find to have lovely & comforting concepts. It is as if takes the Eastern concepts, but throws in a lot of same concepts as Scientology it seemed to me. Which of course came along AFTER theosophy. I'm wondering if L Ron Hubbard got some of his concepts from Theosophy, in fact. Has different levels & seems to embrace superior beings & such. But it seems to have even more (although hard to believe lol ) rituals than the Catholics. But the Catholics have had two millenia for its rituals to form & exist & evolve. Theosophy so new but BAM! A ton of really intricate rituals. Theosophy seemed to lose lot of its steam after the great Depression began in earnest. I think we would be hard pressed to find many people who have even heard of it today. Has a base (w/ archives)in Chicago & I big base in Oakland, CAL(also w/Archives). But in its day, and through 1920's it was THE thing. Although I did find one revival meeting in which Billy Sunday (The Pat Robertson of the roaring 20's) condemns it as being part of the occult. Sunday's was really the only condemnation I could find about it though.
I had just been reading the other day of how scared Rosner had become when seeing the symbols. I wonder if Rosner had came into contact with the Theosophists & or the Birrittella church, which I am of the belief shared some rituals. I have not proven this yet, but my gut tell me so. (LOL I know my gut is worthless as evidence) But the thing I learned important to remember about Theosophy is that it had lots of infighting & hence, groups splintered off, and then those groups splintered off & I got the impression that there were just tons of these splintered groups scattered around the country. Most of these just withered away. Just as the Birrittella church seemed to.
The thing is, their symbols appear very innocuous to us. But none of us embrace the tenets of Theosophy. So it is just meaningless to us & our world. This might be akin to showing a middle Easterner who had no experience whatsoever with Catholicism an upside down cross. They are not going to get the meaning of this. This would not strike terror in their heart as it would a devout Catholic who would IMMEDIATELY grasp what an upside upside down cross would signify. And maybe even recoil in horror upon seeing it. I'm trying to give an analogy & not so sure that was a good one, but I think you get my meaning. But the more I am reading of Theosophy, the more I am finding it easy to believe that there is some symbolism that we are just not privy too. It might perhaps be Theosophy's upside down cross, so to speak. I am compiling a list of the places where meetings were held in NY by going through old newspaper archives, and the majority I have found were held at a place on Lenox Ave. Also found several lectures given at Carnegie Hall.
I found this info about two of its symbols in particular. Both singular & interlocking circles.The circles that interlock that are meant to be snakes that sit on top of one another-not next to each other. The appear to join up slightly . These are two of the meanings I have found.
Singular Ouroboros signifies:
The Ouroboros is a greek word, and means "tail swallower." The ouroboros is usually depicted in the form of a snake swallowing its tail, and is usually circular, although it is sometimes depicted in a lemniscate shape. It originated in Egypt as a symbol of the sun, and represented the travels of the sun disk. In Gnosticism, it was related to the solar God Abraxas, and signified eternity and the soul of the world. In alchemy, it represents the spirit of Mercury (the substance that permeates all matter), and symbolizes continuous renewal (a snake is often a symbol of resurrection, as it appears to be continually reborn as it sheds its skin.), the cycle of life and death, and harmony of opposites.
A double ouroboros (two creatures swallowing one another) in alchemy signifies volatility. Spiritually, it signifies the balance of the upper and lower natures.
((Could the "lower nature" perhaps be a reference to the underworld?))
Theosophy was also big on the Swastika. (Which I have heard oft repeated-but find hard to believe, CAL had painted into top of Spirit of St Louis). I also observed the two electrical looking symbols in relation to Theosophy.
As I mentioned earlier, Alexi Carrell was a big part of Theosophy movement. I am not sure when CAL first became a friend of Carrels, but I find it hard to believe if Carrell embraced Theosophy, Lindbergh did not embrace it too. But I'm looking further into when Carrell became so involved . Alexi Carrell was classified as a "Great Theosophist" however & it appears as if he was really key in helping them to develop their concepts of supremacy.
Theosophists are also very big into the number 7.
There is SO much more but I tried to whittle it sown to the aspects that might be most applicable to the Spiritualist church that figures so prominently into the LKC.
Although Condon of course denied it on the stand, I wonder how it even came to pass that he was asked on the stand if he had ever been a teacher of Theosophy. He said no. However, the correct term would not be "teacher of Theosophy" but "Master" so I am reasoning that JFC would have reasoned that he was not lying when he denied being a "teacher of Theosophy. Where did this question even come from? There might be lots of things people are asked, but this is a pretty odd question to just come out of left field. There was some REASON JFC was asked this, imo.
I also wonder why Lindbergh was asked upon the stand about Theosophy. Where was the fire that caused this Theosophy smoke during the trial of BRH?
I just cannot stress enough how I really feel there was some reason behind the scenes for asking this very specific question about this very weird religion that was worlds apart from other spiritualist churches of that era.