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Post by Michael on Jul 18, 2006 5:11:39 GMT -5
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Post by gary on Jul 18, 2006 12:23:36 GMT -5
I just ordered my copy this morning and anticipating some interesting reading. Wendel is certainly an interesting corner of the case. What took my interest a while back and we have discussed it before is the potential acquaintance of Wendel and Fisch. If two seperate mysteries collide there could be something to find. What I continue to weigh is the possibility of a front door exit that Paul Wendel exposed or guessed at. keep in mind if Fisch was involved and had to seek legal possibilities who else to contact than the darkside (Wendel).
I've listened to all the views Parker was over the hill and suffered some dimensia when it came to the Lindbergh case. Regardless Parker was probably the most experienced, successful, and an outstanding investigator. If we are able to gain some more depth in Parker's investigation from this book it is well worth listening to.
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Post by Michael on Jul 22, 2006 7:14:48 GMT -5
I agree with you Gary. People on both sides (and in the middle) tend to eliminate everything based upon (1) point. All things being equal - if you do it with Parker you must do it with everyone (and thing) else. Where do you find yourself then I wonder? It happens everywhere in the case. If you find your thoughts on opposite ends of certain elements and/or points coming from a source I think it is a major mistake to shrug off everything coming from them - especially Parker. I posted this letter below to give a flavor of what the Governor received from around the country (and world) concerning ideas about the case and their support/faith in Parker's abilities. My copy of Master Detective should arrive today or tomorrow. I have recently found more on an angle that will be found within its pages so hopefully I can add further insight.
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Post by rick3 skeptic4 on Jul 22, 2006 12:06:07 GMT -5
Let me be the first to say that Master Detective leaves me out in the colde? If there is one single original idea or revelation in it vis-a=vis the LKC I'll be astounded? I think Scaduto and Wayne Jones covered every one of these Ellis/Wendel points already and most with better writing and suspense? I have a few pages left to read......so if it doesnt improve/ I would recommend passing on it? Its nice/not necessary. Borrow it from library?
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Post by Michael on Jul 25, 2006 5:39:39 GMT -5
I think if we comb through any book looking to "make corrections" or to disagree with little positions and/or point out "harmless errors" there isn't one on the planet we will enjoy about the case. These message board debates sort of posture our minds to do just that so I think we should try to turn down that knob a bit before we pick up any published work.
Now this isn't to say you're wrong Rick....everyone sees things differently or has more interest in one thing as compared to another. A perfect example is Jone's book - I give you a world of credit for not only reading it but enjoying it. I couldn't get through any one chapter without putting it down and I still don't know what I read.
I rec'd my copy of Master Detective last night and I was very excited to get started.....
Already I was impressed with the "Author's Note" concerning his approach to the book. It explains the differences of opinions and relates: after completing his research - this is how he sees it.
With this in mind Chapter 1 was interesting. Already I think John has assisted me with a major question I have always had - why wasn't Parker at the March 5th conference called by Governor Moore? John's position provides a viable explanation.
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Post by rick3 skeptic4 on Jul 25, 2006 16:05:06 GMT -5
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Post by Michael on Aug 1, 2006 5:16:40 GMT -5
Just starting Chapter 4 and I am really enjoying the book.....
Rick, I want to go back to why Parker wasn't at that conference. What reason did you attribute to Parker absence? Do you agree with John's position?
I've done a ton of research, not only into Parker but the Wendel 'affair.' I know that Steve has too - so he is probably scratching his head as to why John didn't accept Bleefeld's testimony concerning this event thereby coming up with an alternative explanation which seems to fit.
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Post by rick3 skeptic5 on Aug 1, 2006 8:16:31 GMT -5
Hi Michael...its difficult to discern why Parker didnt go to the Conference. After all, the Police Chief of Atlantic city showed up? I suppose he was invited...by a General Ad in the paper? Maybe he wanted a Special Engraved Invitation from the Gov? Quite obviously, he had no respect for Stormin Norman, a Bamberger floorwalker--and this too may have limited his participation/ Being outspoken against the German Police Uniforms got him into difficulty too.
Its more interesting to jump ahead to page 111+, where Ellic Parker writes Paul E. Wendel a letter and thus becomes yet another "go-between" in the LKC. Albeit unofficial, on March 8th. This is almost the same time as Condon becomes yet another "go-between" in the LKC. The contrast is startling! Lindbergh hires a bumbling olde fool from the Bronx and Wendel goes to Parker "the greatest detective in the World"? This is interesting in and of itself/
How many go-betweens does it take to recovery a kidnapped baby? [Breckenridge, Rosner, Spitz, Bitale, Madden and on and on to nowheres]
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Post by LEAH on Aug 5, 2006 9:41:19 GMT -5
TO STEVE, MICHAEL AND ALLEN, JUST WHAT SORT OF HELP DID YOU OFFER REISING IN THIS BOOK. I WAS SO DISAPPOINTED TO SEE ONLY CONJECTURE. I SO MUCH WAS HOPING TO SEE SOME RESEARCH INTO THE WENDAL/FISCH CONNECTION. IT EITHER DID OR DIDN'T EXIST
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Post by Michael on Aug 5, 2006 18:48:18 GMT -5
Hi Leah. John and I traded some thoughts & ideas then exchanged some source material from time to time. I haven't finished his book yet but it looks as though he drew information from all sources and opinions then formulated his own personal position from everything he collected, learned, researched, and studied. I don't want to get into my personal position on the matter until I am finished with his book - then I can give my differing perspective or compliment his points with further information. I've been side-tracked trying to "de-code" many of the reports that I have which relate to this subject - literally. Many reports, letters, and memos use codes and/or special coded abbreviations. Sometimes the codes change from one report to the next. It's fun but time consuming and exhausting. Let me just say one thing though.... Bleefeld as a source, in my opinion, must be looked at with extreme caution. Even Wendel draws a lot of his information directly from what he said. There were several official hearings as a result of the "Wendel Matter." - 1. Grand Jury New Jersey
- 2. Grand Jury Kings County
- 3. Kings County Trial
- 4. Kings County Re-trial
- 5. Federal Trial
That's quite a bit of information. I've read none of the Re-trial transcripts and only some of the rest. So far I haven't come across the Wendel/Fisch connection in what I have read. There's also nothing in the reports I have been able to figure out. Definitely some shady dealings and illegal activities but I see nothing tying in with Fisch. If anyone knows of another source besides what Bleefeld told Scaduto I would be happy for the lead.
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Post by Michael on Oct 14, 2006 18:02:19 GMT -5
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Post by Michael on Oct 14, 2006 18:07:19 GMT -5
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