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Post by Sue on Nov 2, 2022 12:53:33 GMT -5
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Post by bernardt on Nov 2, 2022 14:29:03 GMT -5
Thanks, Sue. A very interesting article and let's hope the request is granted. Where would a sample of Hauptmann's DNA be obtained for the analysis?
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Post by Michael on Nov 3, 2022 7:47:38 GMT -5
Thanks, Sue. A very interesting article and let's hope the request is granted. Where would a sample of Hauptmann's DNA be obtained for the analysis? They [NJSP] have several potential sources of Hauptmann's DNA. For example, there's something he sent to Max Rauch when he and Anna were on their Florida trip, and there's other things like a crate full of every shoe Hauptmann ever owned. There's also possible sources for Fisch as well. I know they have his comb and toothbrush, but I'm not sure about degrading or cross contamination or how that works. I'm certainly no expert. People touched those items but I don't think they combed their hair with it or brushed their teeth. There's so many advances in the DNA technology nowadays, I'd think there's at least a chance of it.
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Post by ace on Dec 18, 2022 18:39:35 GMT -5
I'm new to this board. This is my first post. I corresponded with Anna Hauptmann in the 1980s and have saved the envelopes I received from her. It occurred to me at some point that she likely licked the stamps and envelopes, and if, so, I would have her DNA.
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hiram
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Post by hiram on Jan 8, 2023 12:41:07 GMT -5
Commenting here on DNA possibilities:
When Condon and Lindbergh went to St. Raymond's Cemetery, they saw a man walking on Tremont St. who covered his mouth and the lower part of his face with a handkerchief, passing the car and looking at the two of them. Later the same man appeared running down Tremont toward Whittemore. According to Lindbergh, "As he passed the car, he covered his face with the handkerchief and blew his nose so loudly that it could be distinctly heard across the street where I was parked. . ." (Quoted from Lloyd Gardner's "The Case That Never Dies" onpage 82.) According to Gardner, "police recovered the handkerchief, but it yielded no clues."
If the man blew his nose loudly into the handkerchief, there would have been some of his DNA contained in it. If the handkerchief can still be found, perhaps in NJ archives, I suggest that this testing could be done. The man might have been Cemetery John or perhaps a lookout for him. The handkerchiefs might well have been used to signal to one another. Regardless, if the DNA could be identified, that would be one clue to the identity of CJ or point us to the group responsible for collecting the ransom money.
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Post by obi on Jan 11, 2023 10:03:08 GMT -5
I have always wondered whether the unidentified prints, uncovered by Dr. Hudson from the ladder were checked after BRH conviction. Especially now in the "computer age".
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Post by Joe on Jan 11, 2023 12:35:50 GMT -5
I have always wondered whether the unidentified prints, uncovered by Dr. Hudson from the ladder were checked after BRH conviction. Especially now in the "computer age". It certainly would make sense for there to be at least one Hauptmann partial palmprint or fingerprint somewhere on the ladder, given the fact it's around his neck for a lot of other good reasons.
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Post by Michael on Jan 11, 2023 17:25:07 GMT -5
I have always wondered whether the unidentified prints, uncovered by Dr. Hudson from the ladder were checked after BRH conviction. Especially now in the "computer age". I addressed this in V2 starting on page 15. All prints the NJSP had were examined in Phase 2 of their Lindbergh Kidnapping Review in 1977 which concluded in the Spring of 1980. They utilized the most advanced fingerprint technology at that time thru a company called Calspan located in Buffalo, NY. They had 112 prints but Calspan could only find 51 usable prints among them. They were checked against Hauptmann and NONE matched. In fact, the only prints identified belonged to Bornmann's middle, ring, and little fingers. All others were unidentified and remain so to this day. I am 99% sure these prints haven't been looked at since. This despite the NJSP using the most recent/advanced fingerprint technology now, in fact, Law Enforcement from all over the country call on them to help identify prints. A good example being that's how they caught John List. My guess is they would be able to use some of the earlier ones deemed unusable back in 1977 if they were ever to reexamine them today.
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Post by Sue on Jan 21, 2023 15:51:27 GMT -5
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Post by IloveDFW on Jan 21, 2023 16:48:38 GMT -5
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Post by Sue on Jan 31, 2023 14:29:46 GMT -5
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Post by Sue on Apr 12, 2023 19:48:33 GMT -5
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