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Post by kjones on Apr 2, 2012 17:44:17 GMT -5
Hi Michael: Just wondering if you have ever read or heard anything about JP Morgan Jr being involved in the kidnapping of Charley? Just finished House Of Morgan, never realized that JPM Jr. had such disregard for Lindbergh Sr. even blaming him for his fathers ill health. JPM Jr. and Thomas Lamont were not happy with Morrow for leaving the House of Morgan, it just wasn't done. According to Chernow, relations became very tense when Morrow sided with Mexico over leases that would end up costing Morgan millions. Then Lindbergh meets and marries Anne, Morrow is appointed, then elected to the senate. I believe Morrow was sworn in to the Senate around March 1, 1931. Dr. Condon told him CJ said the kidnapping was planned well over a year., and that a man named John was involved. Maybe Morgan and Lamont were trying to reign in Senator Morrow and Lindbergh.. Of course everything changes when Morrow dies in Oct 1931. But what if one of those who planned the kidnapping decides to carry out the kidnapping after all he might be owed 50000 by Morrow for work done in Mexico.. My vote would be JJ Novitskiy, a former double agent, forger and employee of the Burns Agency. The agency was used by Morgan as needed. Both Mean and JJ worked at the Burns agency. Okay, thats my crazy theory of the week. Just something to make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmm!
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Post by bookrefuge on Apr 2, 2012 20:12:55 GMT -5
Hi, Kjones. Interesting post. You might check my thread under General Discussion called “A Theory on Development.” Charles Lindbergh’s congressman father was a HUGE enemy of the Wall Street interests. The thread I mention above revolves largely around James Warburg, a Lindbergh rival who is canvassed as a possible LKC suspect in Alan Marlis’s self-published Lindbergh Baby Kidnap Conspiracy. You mention the issue of JP Morgan’s health; on that note, it might also be pointed out that Warburg’s father Paul (architect of the Federal Reserve) died just two months before the kidnapping. You also mention Lamont—he lived only about a block from Warburg on E. 70th Street. Lamont had employed Red Johnsen, boyfriend of Betty Gow; and Warburg employed the sister of Marguerite Junge, the Morrow servant who was “out riding” with Red on the night of the kidnapping. The Johnsen-Junge connection meant there was a potential pipeline of information about the Lindberghs into those households on E. 70th. I do think revenge, rather than ransom, was a possible motive for the LKC . And if someone was hired to hands-on carry it out, at the top of the suspect list would certainly be the man you mention, JJ Nosovitsky. He had guile and guts, and reportedly had connections to Condon, Fisch and the Morrows.
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Post by Michael on Apr 3, 2012 15:46:04 GMT -5
I am glad you brought this "new" angle up. I recollect something about him was mentioned some time ago - but its been so long ago I can't remember anything about it.
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Post by Michael on Apr 5, 2012 19:21:06 GMT -5
I was searching through my files (in an attempt to compliment this theory) and came across this Report which I had originally located in the Schwarzkopf File at the NJSP Archives. Nothing on JPMjr. but I wanted to post it nevertheless: Attachments:
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Post by bookrefuge on Apr 5, 2012 23:00:56 GMT -5
Michael, that is a fascinating post. Thank you.
I wonder if Schwarzkopf followed up on this. Since Red Johnsen got sent home, one might presume the report got discredited—but maybe not, maybe there’s another explanation.
The fact that it was discussed by Schwarzkopf, Hoover and the U.S. consul in Vancouver adds some credibility. Also, while I know that a number of people eventually came forward, for a variety of motives, and concocted crazy stories about the kidnapping, this report’s early date might also add a little credence. It’s dated March 6, but since the info went from the consul to Hoover to Schwarzkopf, I assume that the informer spoke to the consul not later than March 5, and possibly earlier.
If there is truth to the report, it means Red Johnsen already knew Betty Gow in 1930. We have always been told that he met her at a dance in North Haven, Maine, in August 1931. Makes you wonder if going to the dance was prearranged so they could “meet.”
Not that I think “Fred Earl” is Nosovitsky, but about half the description fits him (and about half doesn’t).
I see you started a short thread called “Canadian connections” that elaborated on this report, and also touches on Nosovitsky. The Sharp sisters were in Canada before the U.S.—one post on this board has them coming to the U.S. from Canada in December 1930, similar time frame to Gow and Johnsen being in Canada, if the Vancouver report is factual. Remembering that Nosovitsky was an agent of British intelligence, and that Canada was part of the British realm, and Gow and the Sharp sisters were subjects of the UK, one wonders if something was just possibly going on up there between these parties.
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Post by Michael on Apr 6, 2012 19:00:27 GMT -5
There was much of this going on in the early part of the investigation. But I believe they determined the "Gow" in Canada wasn't "Betty" but somebody else misidentified as her. And once Red left the country all eyes were then off of him.
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Post by rose21 on Oct 2, 2013 0:16:03 GMT -5
I am late responding on this one (as in a year plus late), but this is a good theory. I keep coming back to the notion that there were powerful forces behind this kidnapping. It would not be unusual for the House of Morgan to deal harshly with their enemies. I did not realize that Morrow's leaving was resented by the Morgan enterprise. I also found it very ironic that the son of one of the most outspoken anti-Fed-Reserve crusaders would end up marrying the daughter of a chief force behind the Federal Reserve. Nosovitsky is still on my mind as a central facilitator in this.
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Post by Michael on Oct 3, 2013 5:34:27 GMT -5
I also found it very ironic that the son of one of the most outspoken anti-Fed-Reserve crusaders would end up marrying the daughter of a chief force behind the Federal Reserve. I agree with this, and it truly was.
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