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Post by rebekah on Nov 13, 2014 22:56:53 GMT -5
I still can't find the photo I'm thinking of, but I believe the man's name was Wally Stroh. Did Henry Uhlig drive? Could he have been the man running around near the Lindbergh estate on March 1st? He bears a strong resemblance to Richard Hauptmann, in my opinion. I had a photo linked, but I couldn't get it to post. I'm nearly finished with Anthony Scaduto's book, and I've just hit the reports about the tickets back to Germany purchased on 11-14-33 by one Isidor Fisch (pages 458-459). As Lt. Kenda says, "Well, my, my, my. Isn't that interesting?" So, Fisch buys the tickets at 11:00 AM with 10s and 20s in gold certificates, and Richard beats feet to the bank just before it closes at 3:00 PM and 'lends' him the money for the tickets. Then, George Steinweg, the steamship agent, getting wind of Fisch by way of newspaper articles, and remembering the transaction, goes to his bank and inquires about a deposit of such certificates around the same date. To quote: "The bank officials also remembered the matter very well. They had discovered, upon checking over the certificates, that they were a part of the Lindbergh ransom money............... " And, there's more. On page 460. In the early summer of 1932, a man by the name of Arthur H. Trost reported that a man he knew only as " Fritz" approached him and asked if he wished to buy some 'hot money' from one of his friends for 50 cents on the dollar. When they met the man, Trost knew him. It was Isidor Fisch. Trost declined the offer. (Lucky for him!) Was Fisch the seller and NOT the buyer I've always believed he was? I know that most of the members here are, no doubt, familiar with all of this; but it's new to me. Is it really possible that Isidor Fisch was trying to sell Lindbergh ransom as early as June, 1932? I'm trying to wrap my head around this. Also, is it true that the Henkels (sp.), with whom Fisch lived, resided in an apartment that was just across the street from the Temple of Divine Power? In one of my notes, I wrote that Violet Sharpe, Septimus Banks, and Olly Whateley all attended this Spiritualistc "church". C'mon. These are the kinds of coincidences that just don't happen. Anyone can answer. Please, help an old lady.
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Post by hurtelable on Nov 14, 2014 1:33:31 GMT -5
Reilly apparently had a drinking problem, which affected his capabilities in the courtroom. He didn't prepare or organize his presentations or his questioning of witnesses very well. In contrast to Reilly, who was based in New York and was hired on Hauptmann's behalf by the Hearst newspaper chain, Fisher was probably hired because of his local familiarity as one of Reilly's defense assistants. Fisher was very cognizant of Reilly's shortcomings and the two didn't get along very well. Following Hauptmann's conviction, Reilly was off the case and Fisher became the lead attorney for the appeals process.
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Post by romeo12 on Nov 14, 2014 7:35:39 GMT -5
fisher was one of his assistants in the trial.i don't think anybody would have got hauptmann off,but they should have kept fawcett
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Post by Michael on Nov 14, 2014 8:08:58 GMT -5
fisher was one of his assistants in the trial.i don't think anybody would have got hauptmann off,but they should have kept fawcett When Fawcett was lead, he brought in George K. Large as his co-counsel. Once Fawcett was relieved, Hearst Newspapers hired Reilly as Lead Attorney for Mrs. Hauptmann. Fisher was added as was Large who Fisher knew and believed since he was already familiar with Fawcett's Defense strategy would be a valuable asset to the Defense. Both Fisher and Large had a lengthy sit-down meeting with Mrs. Hauptmann to go over the facts as she knew them. Shortly after this, Large would defect to the Prosecution as a "Special Prosecutor" costing the State $8000 for his services. Well spent I'd say.... that is if you can get away with it - and they did.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 12:59:14 GMT -5
I still can't find the photo I'm thinking of, but I believe the man's name was Wally Stroh. Did Henry Uhlig drive? Could he have been the man running around near the Lindbergh estate on March 1st? He bears a strong resemblance to Richard Hauptmann, in my opinion. I had a photo linked, but I couldn't get it to post. I'm nearly finished with Anthony Scaduto's book, and I've just hit the reports about the tickets back to Germany purchased on 11-14-33 by one Isidor Fisch (pages 458-459). As Lt. Kenda says, "Well, my, my, my. Isn't that interesting?" So, Fisch buys the tickets at 11:00 AM with 10s and 20s in gold certificates, and Richard beats feet to the bank just before it closes at 3:00 PM and 'lends' him the money for the tickets. Then, George Steinweg, the steamship agent, getting wind of Fisch by way of newspaper articles, and remembering the transaction, goes to his bank and inquires about a deposit of such certificates around the same date. To quote: "The bank officials also remembered the matter very well. They had discovered, upon checking over the certificates, that they were a part of the Lindbergh ransom money............... " And, there's more. On page 460. In the early summer of 1932, a man by the name of Arthur H. Trost reported that a man he knew only as " Fritz" approached him and asked if he wished to buy some 'hot money' from one of his friends for 50 cents on the dollar. When they met the man, Trost knew him. It was Isidor Fisch. Trost declined the offer. (Lucky for him!) Was Fisch the seller and NOT the buyer I've always believed he was? I know that most of the members here are, no doubt, familiar with all of this; but it's new to me. Is it really possible that Isidor Fisch was trying to sell Lindbergh ransom as early as June, 1932? I'm trying to wrap my head around this. Also, is it true that the Henkels (sp.), with whom Fisch lived, resided in an apartment that was just across the street from the Temple of Divine Power? In one of my notes, I wrote that Violet Sharpe, Septimus Banks, and Olly Whateley all attended this Spiritualistc "church". C'mon. These are the kinds of coincidences that just don't happen. Anyone can answer. Please, help an old lady. Rebekah, Here is a link to the thread that has a post by Michael with Wally Stroh's picture in it. lindberghkidnap.proboards.com/thread/102/jj-nosovitsky?page=4#page=2You might want to borrow Noel Behn's book from the library and read up on the angle that involves Stroh. I know Hurtelable knows a lot about this subject as it involves Nosovitsky and his possible involvement with the Lindbergh kidnapping. Good question about whether Uhlig could drive. I also wonder if Fisch could drive. Perhaps Michael could verify if they were licensed drivers or not or if either of them owned a car and what year and model, etc. Uhlig was Fisch's very best friend for years going back to Germany. I often find myself wondering how much he really knew about Fisch's activities, legal and illegal. Most books on this case never go into much detail about Uhlig. What was he doing on March 1, 1932, March 12, 1932 and April 2, 1932? Trost is just one of the people claiming to have been offered "hot money" by Fisch for sale. I believe that Fisch was into this type of activity. Whether it was actually Lindbergh ransom money he was selling has not been verified. I absolutely love Homicide Hunter with Det. Joe Kenda!! I don't watch much TV but I do try to watch his show whenever possible. The Steinweg angle has been discussed at length on this board on seveal threads. I will search for them and post you a link. It is very interesting. I have Scaduto's book but have not read it cover to cover. I will go and read what he says about this.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 13:19:59 GMT -5
Reilly apparently had a drinking problem, which affected his capabilities in the courtroom. He didn't prepare or organize his presentations or his questioning of witnesses very well. In contrast to Reilly, who was based in New York and was hired on Hauptmann's behalf by the Hearst newspaper chain, Fisher was probably hired because of his local familiarity as one of Reilly's defense assistants. Fisher was very cognizant of Reilly's shortcomings and the two didn't get along very well. Following Hauptmann's conviction, Reilly was off the case and Fisher became the lead attorney for the appeals process. I have been reading the Trial Transcript of the Hauptmann trial. Yes, Reilly liked to drink but I cannot contribute everything he did and failed to do in that courtroom as a result of his drinking. Reilly was not there because he believed in his client's innocence and wanted to prove it. He was there because he was being paid generously by Hearst Publications and because he would be part of the biggest case of its time and of his career. I, personally, don't think he would have wanted to be responsible for winning the freedom of the man believed to be responsible for the murder of the most famous baby in the world. The way he ran the defense effort is proof of this in my opinion. I agree with you that Fisher was brought in as the local guy and the jury could relate much better to him. And you are so right when you say Fisher and Reilly did not get along. Fisher wanted to actually defend Hauptmann, Reilly didn't.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 14:04:59 GMT -5
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Post by rebekah on Nov 15, 2014 20:49:42 GMT -5
Thank you, Amy. I found the photo of Wally Stroh and read the information on Steinweg. Except for the fact that he seemed to be collecting gold certificates himself and maybe even selling them, I don't see any reason for him to make up a story about Fisch paying for his passage with 10s and 20s, which the bank indicated were deposited in the steamship account near Nov. 14, 1933. The bank says these bills turned out to be Lindbergh ransom, according to Scaduto, but the Feds hit a dead end trying to trace them. (?) As for Stroh. The first time I saw this photo, I thought he looked remarkably like the original drawing. lindberghkidnap.proboards.com/attachment/download/330lindberghkidnap.proboards.com/attachment/download/120Here is a pretty good photo of Henry Uhlig: murderpedia.org/male.H/images/hauptmann-bruno/trial/henry-uhlig.jpgIt's not the one I wanted to post, but apparently e-bay has different ideas. That's where I saw it. I'm feeling that need to go back and start from scratch again. My local library seems to be very limited in what they have on the Lindbergh Case. Here are my remaining options: Famous Crimes Revisited -- Henry Lee The Annals of Unsolved Crime -- Edward Jay Epstein Do You Read Me? -- Diane Webber (famous cases solved by handwriting analysis) The 1930s -- Louise Gerdes Master Detective: The Life and Crimes of Ellis Parker -- John Reisinger Popular Crime -- Bill James Not much there, huh? I don't know why they don't have Behn's, Fisher's, or Kennedy's books. This is a big library in a college town. Yes, indeed. I love "Homicide Hunter", too. And, I'm not a big television fan, but another guilty pleasure is "How To Get Away With Murder." I'm hoping Viola Davis wins an Emmy.
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