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Post by Sue on Jun 4, 2022 15:48:23 GMT -5
I think this is the NEW YORK Daily News. Ed Sullivan's Broadway column on December 9, 1935, page 44 states: "Three Jersey detectives are checking the alibi of Bruno Hauptmann that Fisch sent ransom money back to Germany through the Paul Tausig Steamship Agency." See second paragraph, top left. This page can be viewed. Click on: "What Members Have Found on This Page" www.newspapers.com/newspage/418449694/Did Hauptmann ever mention the Paul Tausig Steamship Company to authorities? I think the agency dealt with German banks.
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Post by Michael on Jun 6, 2022 7:06:34 GMT -5
Did Hauptmann ever mention the Paul Tausig Steamship Company to authorities? I think the agency dealt with German banks. I've only ever seen this name once before and it was another newspaper article - maybe this one. I searched for it but couldn't find it and I'm starting to think my recollection is from maybe a previous post you've made on this. If you didn't make one before then I must have it somewhere. My guess is that its a mistake thats actually referring to Steinweg.
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Post by Sue on Jun 6, 2022 9:52:20 GMT -5
Hi Michael,
In a post for August 10, 2018 under the Dark Corners thread for Isidor Fisch, you state that "during the Hoffman investigation it was discovered that Fisch sent his father $25 on May 17, 1933 thru the Tausig agency in New York..."
Maybe there is more about the Tausig company in Volume 2?
I will try to attach the link, but have had trouble doing so in the past.
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Post by Michael on Jun 6, 2022 11:41:26 GMT -5
In a post for August 10, 2018 under the Dark Corners thread for Isidor Fisch, you state that "during the Hoffman investigation it was discovered that Fisch sent his father $25 on May 17, 1933 thru the Tausig agency in New York..." That was a big help Sue, I never would have found it:
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Post by Sue on Jun 6, 2022 13:34:47 GMT -5
Michael,
I look forward to viewing the document!
Can Wayne send it to me?
Thanks!
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Post by bernardt on Jun 6, 2022 15:06:19 GMT -5
Isidor Fisch passed away in March of 1934, so the money sent to Pinkus Fisch on December 6, 1934 occurred nearly nine months after his death. If the Bank of Manhattan Company at 40 Wall Street in New York sent Pinkus Fisch $50 in 1934, the money would have undergone an exchange from US dollars to the Deutsche mark. If the US. money had been ransom notes, the Bank of Manhattan would have discovered this at that time. Was any ransom money totalling $50. discovered in Manhattan on Dec. 6, 1934?
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Post by bernardt on Jun 6, 2022 15:18:47 GMT -5
Isidore Fisch was said to have sent Salmon Fisch $25. on May 17, 1933. The FBI record indicates that a ransom bill of $10. was passed at the Union Square Bank of Manhattan on May 9. One had been passed on May 8 at the Corn Exchange Bank, 86th St. and Lexington Ave. in Manhattan. No money is recorded as having been found in July, August, September, or October of that year. Ransom money began to appear in late November of 1934.
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Post by Sue on Jun 6, 2022 19:52:36 GMT -5
Was Fisch turning ransom bills into traveler's checks? (Were people able to purchase international money orders in the 1930s?) Apparently, the Fisch siblings didn't immediately turn the gifts from Isidor into cash. The following newspaper page is VIEWABLE. www.newspapers.com/clip/35956047/daily-news/See bottom of page for picture of Fisch's application for Reichsmark traveler cheques. "Hauptmann Enigma Grows" New York Daily News December 20, 1935 Page 38 The three Jersey detectives were checking this story out in December 1935, about the same time as this New York Daily News article was published. Ed Sullivan, who famously introduced the Beatles on his show, was the author of the New York Daily News' Broadway column early in his career! (See above)
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Post by skeptical on Oct 2, 2022 11:17:32 GMT -5
Why I’m always a skeptic.
I’m reading Ghosts of Hopewell.
If that $474 traveler’s check is genuine Jim Fisher must explain how BRH’s claimed source of the ransom had enough money to travel to Germany and send nearly $11,000 in present day value money to America.
Occam’s Razor would support it’s because Fisch had a huge stash of ransom money.
That doesn’t clear BRH entirely.
But his Fisch story is now corroborated by circumstantial evidence.
Fascinating.
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Post by Sue on Oct 3, 2022 13:13:44 GMT -5
Adriatic Exchange Steamship Agency -- most of the name and the address is stamped on that traveler's check. On page 4 of the Sunday New York Daily News for September 23, 1934 is more information about Fisch's (and Uhlig's) ticket purchase. "George Steinweg, head of the Adriatic Exchange Steamship Agency at 226 E. 86th St., said Fisch returned to the agency..." See second column from left, starting at "Purchase of Ticket Checked." www.newspapers.com/clip/109415208/daily-news/This newspaper page is viewable.
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Post by skeptical on Oct 3, 2022 15:47:24 GMT -5
Adriatic Exchange Steamship Agency -- most of the name and the address is stamped on that traveler's check. On page 4 of the Sunday New York Daily News for September 23, 1934 is more information about Fisch's (and Uhlig's) ticket purchase. "George Steinweg, head of the Adriatic Exchange Steamship Agency at 226 E. 86th St., said Fisch returned to the agency..." See second column from left, starting at "Purchase of Ticket Checked." www.newspapers.com/clip/109415208/daily-news/This newspaper page is viewable. Another thing that’s unusual is the illegal alien BRH had plenty of money to buy a new 1930 car for $575 cash a year before the kidnap. He took a long journey west in 1931. 1930 was the first year of the depression, and people expected times to improve. But all of 1931 was horrendous, and 1932 was the trough. Where did Fisch get all that money? And where did a carpenter get enough money to pay cash for a new car in 1931? Fascinating subjects.
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Post by bernardt on Oct 4, 2022 9:25:12 GMT -5
Hauptmann had a large canoe as well as a car. He took trips to California, Florida, hunting trips to Maine. His wife worked at a bakery and earned enough to pay the rent. Hauptmann worked on occasion for short times on carpenter jobs. So where did he get his money? By investing in the stock market? Please! The stock market crashed in October of 1929, and the depression continued for a number of years. OK, so he did use a stockbroker--which I suggest was a front for what he was really doing. Consider who made the money at that time. Ships from Canada came to New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut carrying illegal alcohol. It was big business. Rum-runners made good money. The ships paused away from the shores; smaller boats took the booze to land, and rum-runners then carried the load to local speakeasys, inns, taverns. The stuff was stored along major routes in old buildings on farms and apartments rented in towns. For years Maine had a ban on alcohol. Those in Maine were well practiced in rum running. The Lister brothers from Maine, Lindbergh's companions on a hunting trip, would have been well practiced. The rum runners did not have to be members of the mob, just errand boys for them, but well paid. A new car and a boat, vacations, trips--not luxuries for a man working only part-time. The road down New Jersey from New York to Princeton was a major route for the rum supply. Schippel's Shack was probably used for more than rentals. It had a nice chicken coop that fit the need. I am not claiming that the mob stole the child. No, that was not their business, but that would not prevent a rum-runner to look for more money in a different activity.
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Post by skeptical on Oct 4, 2022 10:49:41 GMT -5
Thanks for the inspiration.
Rum runners during Prohibition had plenty of money for new cars.
But the only reason the thirties rum runners could expect to live a long life is they confined their business to supplying what the public wanted, not kidnapping the world’s most famous baby.
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Post by bernardt on Oct 4, 2022 13:35:17 GMT -5
The Mob despised kidnappers and were intent on selling booze and drugs and prostitution. Individual rum-runners were not members of the mob but citizens who provided land transportation and storage of the liquor. These individuals would not necessarily have any scruples about kidnapping if there was money involved. In the Midwest farmers rented their old chicken coops and unused barns for storage but were not mob members.
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Post by bernardt on Oct 4, 2022 13:57:52 GMT -5
EG. The man whom Angus McIver the tour guide in Manitoba identified as Hauptmann said that the man claimed he "made a lot of money with his canoe." I am not suggesting here than the man was necessarily Hauptmann, but Hauptmann did spend some time on Hunter Island even in months the place was closed. His canoe was stored conveniently near. It did require two persons to row as it was large. The confession on the table found in South Plainfield gives the information that the ransom money was buried in Summit. There is a Bald Summit in Manitoba, not that far from the Fort Prince of Wales where the unidentified man left the tour guide to poke around by himself for an hour. This information is found on a thread posting info. about "The Lone Wolf."
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Post by thestonesunturned on Oct 6, 2023 11:55:45 GMT -5
Quick note (get it?) about the Gold Certificates--They were no longer Legal Tender in the US as of May 1, 1933 and illegal for Americans to even own as of December 1933. (But, that was FDR's surprise policy. No one knew in 1932...)
BUT, outside the US, especially in China and Europe, US Gold Certificates were still considered money, at least by a lot of "people." And banks. Maybe not 1 for 1. But, money, nonetheless. Also, let's not forget, this was the Wild West Days of Wall Street. There are zero reasons for ruling out "people" like Joe Kennedy secretly buying up "expired" gold certificates--at discounted rates, natch--on the black market long after May 1, 1933. I mean, just how much money DID The Colonel and his in-laws lose between 1929 and 1932? The Colonel had enough trouble raising $50,000 in cash. And apparently, $70,000 was just impossible. That's actually pretty believable. I mean, if it weren't for those miraculous patent royalties on "his" blood-related inventions--that "he" was literally tinkering on the day before his son was "kidnapped--" The Colonel might have gone completely broke.
And then, there's that funny little busines of The Colonel not wanting the Feds to write down the serial numbers of those bills...
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