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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2014 17:57:49 GMT -5
What you posted is fine Michael. From what you say, I see why they would be concerned about public reaction to it. I think it was wrong non-the-less to not pass on this letter to his mother. It is stuff like this that makes you wonder what other things might have been withheld or misplaced by authorities in order to protect their case. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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Post by romeo12 on Jul 27, 2014 18:21:16 GMT -5
the huddleson report was withheld for a lot of years, wilentz would have loved it
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Post by Michael on Jul 28, 2014 6:31:18 GMT -5
didn't Kimberling get in trouble for letting ellis parkers secretary in the death house? I think it was off limits to woman at that time I don't recall him getting into "trouble" for it. There was much controversy over who the woman "dressed like a man" was, and no one was saying. This angered both the public and especially the Press. They wanted to know what was going on. Gov. Hoffman finally cleared it up what happened, and who it was, in his Liberty Articles. He claimed Kimberling sent word to him that Hauptmann wanted to talk, and had been mulling it over. On the night of October 16th, he had a last minute cancellation of an engagement when he called up Kimberling to see if he could see Hauptmann. Hoffman claimed he originally believed Hauptmann was going to "confess," therefore he knew he would need someone who was a stenographer, as well as someone fluent in German. He called Anna Badding who had just gotten home from an affair at the Eastern Star where she had been celebrated as "Worthy Matron." She rushed to Kimberling's house where both Hoffman and Kimberling decided it was best to cover up her evening gown with one of Kimberling's overcoats. She was seated by the Electric Chair in the "Death Chamber" and was waiting to be called in if needed. She was never called, therefore, never entered Death Row.
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Post by romeo12 on Jul 28, 2014 21:00:13 GMT -5
if im not mistaken mike, I think it was brought out at the ellis parker trial
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Post by Michael on Jul 29, 2014 5:11:47 GMT -5
if im not mistaken mike, I think it was brought out at the ellis parker trial Yes, this event was definitely brought up in Parker's trial. I'll look around to see if I have the reference.
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Post by romeo12 on Jul 29, 2014 6:56:02 GMT -5
I think some of the excerpts are in wendels book. I will dig it out
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Post by Michael on Jul 30, 2014 12:38:53 GMT -5
I think some of the excerpts are in wendels book. I will dig it out Kimberling's testimony on pages 2521 thru 2547. Both Judge Clark and Prosecutor Quinn make it clear he did nothing wrong concerning this visit. The focus seems to be concerning Bleefeld's brother being transferred.
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Post by romeo12 on Jul 30, 2014 17:05:33 GMT -5
but he did something wrong, women wernt allowed in the deathhouse
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Post by Michael on Jul 30, 2014 18:55:46 GMT -5
but he did something wrong, women wernt allowed in the deathhouse But that's not what the statute said: Penal Laws of New Jersey 1906 From the time of such delivery until the infliction of the punishment of death upon him, unless he shall be lawfully discharged from such sentence, the person so sentenced shall be kept in solitary confinement, and no person shall be allowed access to him without an order of some court of competent jurisdiction, except the officers of the prison, his counsel, his physician, a priest or minister of religion, if he shall desire one, and members of his family. Previous Governors had ordered the Warden to allow them access to Death Row Inmates - so Hoffman wasn't alone in doing this. I assume this falls under either the provision concerning officers of the prison, or the order of some court of competent jurisdiction. The Governor was indirectly in charge of all Penal Institutions within the jurisdiction of the State of New Jersey and all Wardens answered directly to him. Additionally, the Governor of the State of New Jersey was a member of the Court of Pardons, as provided for in Article 5 paragraph 10 of the State Constitution. Kimberling testified that he had the authority, as Principal Keeper, to "assign" people to visit Hauptmann. However, when Judge Clark asked if he had indeed assigned the Governor and Mrs. Bading to visit he admitted that he hadn't. This makes it clear beyond all doubt that it was at the Governor's direction.
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Post by romeo12 on Jul 30, 2014 19:32:35 GMT -5
then why did bading dress in a topcoat to hide herself?
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Post by Michael on Jul 31, 2014 5:13:39 GMT -5
then why did bading dress in a topcoat to hide herself? Their story was that she was inappropriately dressed. The Press turned it into that she was "disguised" as a man. The speculation was fueled because they were refusing to give her identity.
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Post by romeo12 on Jul 31, 2014 10:06:14 GMT -5
I will have to dig my sources out
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