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Post by Michael on Sept 4, 2007 5:49:24 GMT -5
Do you have a page number for that Rick? I should be able to find a report on it or at least a Memo from Hoffman.
I think there are some who don't understand why it sometimes takes a lot of time to find things - I oft repeat myself about this but being a student of the case I am interested to explain everything I know....
The reports seem to, I'd say 1 out of 3, mention Condon at least once somewhere in its body. Therefore, it is sometimes hard to find the information you are looking for...at least when you're looking for it. Honestly the worst "offending" party when it comes to this is the FBI. Their reports hit on so many topics at times its hard to know where to file them - then once you do its like you buried treasure and forgot the map.
I have organized my files with "cover sheets" which usually point me to other files mentioning the subject that file covers but I sometimes find myself in a hurry and fail to update them a lot of the time because if I did stop to do this I wind up using all of my time for this purpose only instead of the research which brought me to the file in the first place.
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Post by rick3 on Sept 4, 2007 7:45:28 GMT -5
Michael--you are so right to find anything twice--its a miracle:
PAGE 344 (hardcover)in Noel Behn (366-paperback)--"Mexican Indian symbols.....not to mention the symbols Jafsie referred to in a Massachusetts speech."
Jafsie's wild statements to the press (eg $250,000 bribe) seem to parallel those of John Hughes Curtis who's quoted as saying "Alex (eg CAL) and I are going to drop a bombshell that will startle the world....."? this was issued just few days before the baby was found on Mt. Rose Road. Wonder what he was thinking?
These go-betweens are experts at keeping their own names in the Headlines at the expense of the public and the truth.
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Post by Joe on Sept 4, 2007 18:32:40 GMT -5
The authorities may not have trusted Condon entirely but I believe most of this was engendered by the general lack of information coming from Lindbergh's inner circle before the May 12 discovery of the corpse. Regardless of the level of competing agency infighting, none of them were ever able to pin a thing on Condon. Perhaps if influential lead investigators like the ham-fisted Harry Walsh had not been so intent on nailing Condon to the wall as a confederate from the beginning, they might have been able to establish the identity of the truly guilty party well before Hauptmann simply fell into their laps two and a half years later.
I agree with your bottom line but for different reasons. What the police had was an uncooperative accused and a witness who wasn't certain of the accused's guilt. The NJSP also intensely pursued the Violet Sharp investigation well after the fact in an attempt to save some face from that debacle. So they gave it all they could to try and indict Condon before the time came for them to put up or shut up. Of course they had to throw their support behind him, but not just because the trial was looming. The police ultimately realized they had had nothing on Condon from the very beginning.
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Post by Michael on Sept 5, 2007 5:50:13 GMT -5
Thanks Rick. I haven't found anything specific yet. Condon was in Mass. on several occasions and since Behn doesn't footnote this its like looking for a needle in a haystack. I'll do you one better though: I wholeheartedly disagree. Please try to remember what they did to Curtis. Condon could easily have been in that same situation or worse. Lies, false statements, obstruction of justice, and extortion. He wasn't only because they believed he had ties to the actual parties involved but when he said Hauptmann wasn't John that's when they were finally going to go after him. Take but one example: The Lady of Tuckahoe He tells both the Police, and the FBI this story about meeting her and the arrangement to meet. Nothing can be done until the excitement is over. There is too much publicity. Meet me at the depot at Tuckahoe, Wednesday at Five in the afternoon. I will have a message for you. According to these accounts and his Liberty Article he met her. He even tells Agent Sisk that his daughter-in-law, Kay Condon, drove him there. Among these accounts the Lady of Tuckahoe gives him a little verbal message from the gang which is essentially the same message.... The other accounts are that she failed to show up. Which is the truth? Is neither the truth? What's lost in between these versions of this event is Jafsie Grand Jury Testimony on 5/20/32 where he testifies that he never went to Tuckahoe to see anybody about anything. Perjury? This is just the tip of the iceberg and I could fill 10 threads with this stuff to exemplify my point. They had him over a barrel which is why he double-crossed the gang and testified against Hauptmann.
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Post by Michael on Sept 7, 2007 8:20:28 GMT -5
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Post by Michael on Sept 7, 2007 18:28:07 GMT -5
Rough draft of letter from Gov. Hoffman sent to Condon asking for interview. (This interview was blocked by AG Wilentz):
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