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Post by Michael on May 10, 2006 19:45:06 GMT -5
I am not sure seeing an intruder or tresspasser would be considered an "innocuous sighting" therefore would be a specific event to recall.
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Post by elyssa on May 10, 2006 22:05:58 GMT -5
If Whatley was doing tours of the house (for extra pocket money) he wouldn't want to admit that he gave out personal information on the family.Someone could have come to the house asked Whatley to show him around, then said I'd love for my wife to see this place but she works during the week. Would it be possible to bring her over the weekend? No the family comes every weekend, but I'd be glad to show her around anytime during the week. Now the kidnapper knows when to expect the family. Does anyone know when the Lindberghs planned to move into the house on a permanent basis?
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Post by Michael on May 11, 2006 5:38:11 GMT -5
Elyssa, I have numerous reports concerning the Police investigations wherein they track down, interview, and investigated anyone they even suspected of being in that house for any reason. The other source for these supposed "unauthorized" tours is the FBI Summary Report and it appears to be incorrect. No where in the source documentation does it say these tours occurred or that they "don't know" who had been in the house as a result of such tours etc.... lindberghkidnap.proboards56.com/index.cgi?board=michael&action=display&thread=1144709898
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Post by kevkon on May 11, 2006 5:56:06 GMT -5
Yes, but I was referring to the car sightings and observers. I am sure the estate drew a fair amount of curiosity.
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Post by wcollins on May 11, 2006 9:43:17 GMT -5
I like the idea that a week-day visitor might have discovered the timing of the Lindberghs' visits. That makes sense, whether tours were offered or not. There was a couple, I read somewhere, who came to the house claiming to be friends of the Col and his lady, and a substitute house-sitter got suspicious and reported this to the police.
Remember, we've got a period of time here for such visitors to be "dropping in," with or without tours.
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Post by rick3 on May 11, 2006 10:09:55 GMT -5
Michael....I am intriqued by the statement of Ollie saying he sees CAL in the pantry at 0530 or 1730pm on Tuesday March 1st?
CAL is not supposed to be there before like....0830pm? right? When CAL blows the horne "Im baaaaack!".
BUT...this gels perfectly with Harry Walshes report in the Jersey City Journal that CAL was at Highfields in the afternoon of March 1st and "then came back"?
Do these two reports match? Most accounts miss the afternoon visit. Very strange?
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Post by gary on May 11, 2006 11:31:11 GMT -5
It was CAL JR Rick, not CAL
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Post by Michael on May 13, 2006 12:16:22 GMT -5
I have been doing a lot of research lately and am slipping behind in the postings. I will try to catch up as soon as I can. In the meantime, I have found something interesting....
An electrical contractor named E. C. Bennett made a comment concerning his apprenticeship as a carpenter. He was basically asking if there had been any indications the chisel was used to raise the window. He claimed that it was customary when installing windows in window frames in order to adjust a "snug" fit to use a chisel about 1-1/2" wide between the window sill and sash.
Schwarzkopf replied by saying there wasn't any chisel marks found.
Kevin (or anyone), is Bennett correct here and is this a valid possibility for the existence of this chisel that we may have overlooked?
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Post by kevkon on May 13, 2006 13:50:20 GMT -5
Michael, if you mean an unlocked sash I would say it is certainly possible and I don't think it would leave any discernible marks. I don't know exactly what this Electrician is referring to, so I can't really respond to that specifically. I would point out, however that the windows at Highfields have true divided lites. That is they have muntins or cross bars separating the individual glass panes. Those muntins would provide an easy method to lift the sash up, almost like a handle.
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Post by mjrichmond on May 18, 2006 7:39:35 GMT -5
<<I like the idea that a week-day visitor might have discovered the timing of the Lindberghs' visits.>>
W. - If someone had visited the house on Monday or Tuesday I'm pretty sure it would have been mentioned somewhere. Any other "weekday" visitor would have discovered that the timing of the Lindberghs' visits was such that they were NOT there during the week.
Mjr
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Post by wcollins on May 25, 2006 10:10:14 GMT -5
What I meant by that was that a week-day visitor could have learned the usual routine of visits on weekends. But it would have been, I fully agree, necessary to learn somehow that they were staying over on this weekend. Good point.
As to chisel marks. I am not satisfied that the chisel was ever used to pry open an already raised window -- and therein lies the rub (so to speak).
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Post by kevkon on May 27, 2006 14:16:30 GMT -5
You know there is one possible use for that chisel that I thought of and just tried out. It can be used as a wedge to hold the ladder sections in place. Since the joint design has no lock, inserting a chisel between the rails or in the mortise essentially locks the sections and prevents them from scissoring.
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Post by steve for kevkon on May 27, 2006 14:34:28 GMT -5
when i climbed the replica, it looks like it dosnt need a chisel to lock anything
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Post by kevkon on May 27, 2006 16:32:48 GMT -5
Sorry Steve, I should have been more specific but I was running back and forth to the shop. I was refering primarily to the third section , although this could apply to the second as well, when it is being erected.
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