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Post by eldorado on Dec 15, 2023 6:42:03 GMT -5
Greetings,
This is my first post here and I am creating the thread to open the discussion board to the review of new evidence that I have located.
I am a cryptographer that has been consistently able to expose the affairs of a group of politically motivated and sponsored members of a shadowy organization in the US called the KGC, or Knights of the Golden Circle, as well as their associated groups in high-ranking positions in the Government known as the OAK, Order of American Knights.
The timelines that I work to develop as content for my research projects relates to the breaking of ciphers from a series of their communications, spanning from their origial "Business Plot" called the Peralta Land Grab, orchestrated by Albert Pike, JD Rockefeller, and JP Morgan, found detailed in the Beale Ciphers, and leading up into the post-WWII eras, showing the reveals behind encrypted letters from a group of subversives operating in the US and abroad with the members of the World Zionist Congress.
The evidence shows that they had plotted to take over the US after the Civil War, and that they were stockpiling gold and silver looted from the Superstitions and the Black Hills, and with this financial backing, were moving their cabal around in different locations in order to take control over Governments using malicious attacks, assassinations, and even sadistic killings of innocent people in order to drive fear into the hearts of the citizens that were forced to endure through these events that lasted some decades, before eventually they decided to try to stoke the ashes to reignite the fire of hatred against the people of Germany during the run-up to WWI.
They had moved their apparatus from NYC into London, and had killed a handful in Whitechapel, and then again with the killing of a Priest in Rennes Le Bains (Abbe Gelis), and then finally in the Hawes Murders in Birmingham with a mother and her two daughters. In each of these killings there were a series of letters that were mailed into the police and into the newspaper companies, in order to spread fear with the intention of creating even more of a mystery behind their identity. After the man that orchestrated this act died, the killings ended, but the fear was set firmly in the minds of the people that it affected most, creating a legend behind the letters that were archived and considered evidence in the crimes known as the Jack the Ripper Murders. With this ringleader and devout Zionist/Anarchist deceased, his dogma and theatrics were carried on by his daughter, for whom he had written a song for named "The Golden Ladder". Ada Reeves' autobiography speaks volumes as to the nature of this animal, as the Wandering Minstrel was known to have been a prime suspect in the staging of a number of their killings and the writing of letters speaking with symbiotic symbolism, encrypting traits and moniker themes into his work that would give away his role as a former Confederate of London.
After these killings stopped, the plans for WWI were hatched with the forgery of the Zimmerman Letter's message, made from two known and broken German Codes, of which Room 40 in the UK were eager to pass to the US with a second more direct hidden message inside of it, in order to stimulate the threat of a foreign nation's interest in reclaiming the US territories it once inhabited in the Southwest. Spain once had mined the Peralta Mines that were tapped in the Beale, and were chased out of the area during the era that saw the US formed from the Atlantic to the Pacific. They were playing off of the historical animosity between the nations mentioned in order to create the illusion behind the need to create a war in Europe against them, carrying on the continuation of their previous Military agendas. But after taking the entire North American Continent, and founding their goals in the West with the intention of Manifest Destiny, they also were planning to claim the lands of the Germanic People of whom they were planning to decimate for their ever expanding pogroms, and to sacrifice more Americans to their cause. By this time Lenin had forged a strong bond with members of the Communist Parties in other countries that he could use to manipulate the Governments of, in hopes that they could continue the plans that Albert Pike once detailed in his letters describing 3 World Wars. In order to do this they had to create an illusion behind the growing threat of a foreign nation that they planned to impose manipulative financial controls over for decades, in order to keep their thumbs pressing on their nation and to subvert their efforts to maintain governance over their own destiny. With turncoat agents in positions in a number of key nations, they were able to create a sinister timeline that holds water when compared to the ciphers that they used to communicate with.
When the events took place then, the ciphers of a single subversive known as Herbert Osborn Yardley of the MI8, also known as the American Black Chamber, were used to direct the efforts of these shadow governments, and in order to escalate their agenda to the levels where the press and media would run with the baited storylines, they needed to create a massive shock and awe strategy, involving the most sensitive affairs, using an American Icon that they they could try to impose their dogmas on.
As a simple motive can be seen that the associations that Lindbergh had with the NSDAP were formed in a manner that the Zionist cabal wanted to sever, you can also easily see that the template that was used to puncture the signature into the Lindbergh Kidnapping letters would not be signed NSDAP, other than to have been used to feed a false and politically motivated narrative and create a negative reaction towards their political party in Germany. This is strategic planning with ramifications that were intended to be used to stimulate the hatred for the German political apparatus that was fighting Anitfa and other Communist and Anarchist groups in their time. Ask yourself how could the NSDAP be the culprit and what they would have been trying to gain from kidnapping one of their American compatriot's son?
Therefore the kidnapping served to help stimulate sentiment against the Germans, using Lindbergh as a tool for their movement to influence the American Public.
Who was behind it?
The same cryptographer that had arranged the ciphers of the Zimmerman, as well as the people backing him through the US military branch he was assigned to at the American Black Chamber known as MI8.
In 1935 a cipher was mailed to Franklin Delano Roosevelt's attention in the White House with a return address "Secret Service".
It revealed the affairs of a number of plans, as well as detailed information from the Lindbergh Kidnapping.
It revealed the key to the abduction of the child, and exposed the people behind it all at the top of the political food chain in the US.
By this time though, Yardley had already signed another communique of this kind addressed to the Ford Motor Co, as well as revealing his name in the Zimmerman Letter's correspondences with Generals in Vermont. He had formed a signature of sorts that showed how to consistently identify his encrypted letters and text even if completely casually archived without any traits to be seen as such.
By this time the US Govt had caught onto his antics, and closed the American Black Chamber after WWI, and Yardley was busy writing a book with all his secrets mentioned as well as opening a restaurant in NYC to serve as a meeting place to pass along messages to agents of this well known cabal, forming the roots of corruption in the US through the type of business that he was involved with that would eventually become a SMERSH Nuclear Spy Ring Hub, that would act to ferry the messages of this group of spies through to Russia.
There are a lot of details in the timeline, but the key is the patterning in the ciphers that reveals that the letters of the Kidnapping were modeled on the previous ones, including dating back to the Ripper killings and the "Golden Ladder". This one magical piece of evidence found at the scene was what perked my interest and I then was able to crack a cipher that Yardley authored to reveal details about the abduction.
I suspect that Ada, being an actress in a series of movies, and mentioned in the cipher, became one of the agents that was tasked with abducting the child, and I suspect that she is the female who's footprints were being concealed. It was said that throughout the investigations that there were groups of corrupted officers that forced the confessions through torture, and that these numerous pieces of evidence, along with the number of letters and the game that was being played the whole time, would disprove the official story without conjecture, but that the identification of the real criminals and the conspiracy behind it were covered up in order to propagate the sentiment used against the Germans in the run-up to WWII.
I will share with you all this new evidence, and try to show how these ciphers are broken. Please orient yourself on the Beale Ciphers and the works that Yardley had produced afterwards to see the ciphers broken. With this as backing for a run-down of events over a period of decades I formulate the final break that shows Yardley was responsible for one part of the conspiracy, having detailed information revealed in his "Roosevelt Death Card". It even lists the name of one of the maids/nanny/midwives by name on the cover of the card.
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Post by eldorado on Dec 19, 2023 0:52:11 GMT -5
The ciphers of the Beale Papers are notorious and were used to deliver the location of gold and silver caches that were buried in Virginia when they were solved using a specific key. When you crack them you see the techniques of encryption that formed a pattern to identify the ciphers of the shadow govt that was operating in the White House behind the scenes, controlling the nation secretly. You find their patterns and you find their other affairs along a timeline.
In the case of the ciphers that came later?
You can see they were busy taking advantage of the money that was at their disposal from the backing in bullion that they declared.
Here they are planning to introduce a new member, a genius mathematician named Herbert Osborn Yardley, who's cards were themed with his name embedded, as well as signatures of his MI8/American Black Chamber
This card detailed the plans to upgrade the French Air Force, by sending Henry Ford money to take to Paris, to beef up their engines so that they could take more ordinance and fly longer distances.
The characters are used to mask letter sequences as well as be read in plain sight with the interest of signing his name. In this card is the detail of their organization known as the KGC.
Moving through the letters and studying the type of font you find that it has a specific character design to it that mimicks the Jack the Ripper letters
Now look at the poem by the man behind the Whitechapel Vigilance Committee, seemingly the main suspect behind these killings in the UK right after the Beale was dug and the trial over.
The poem is called "The Golden Ladder"
What was the problem with the ladder being constructed and how was it different from other ladders of the times?
Notice the tones in the poem that seem to relate to an iconic tragedy.....
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Post by eldorado on Dec 19, 2023 1:01:23 GMT -5
Now here is where the ciphers from Yardley come back around in 1935
And they mention The Golden Ladder, Reeves' daughter as the female footprint, and a number of other telltale signs that these were the operations of an organized group.
The card is called the Roosevelt Death Card, that hides a series of ciphers behind the numbers and text of the card's design and affirm that the killer of the child during the kidnapping was from the same group.
Roosevelt Death Card Cipher Breaks
You can't get any more detailed when the director of the US Military's MI8 department, a known subversive communist, is revealing all the details that were never known in the case.
You can be assured that he was threatening Roosevelt as well to not interfere with their plans to create a polio vaccine and begin in bussing kids into schools to get the vax
Roosevelt Death Card Secondary Cipher Breaks
The ciphers were designed as the Beale was, holding two ciphers in the one text of the card. The Golden Ladder again being the clue.....as the lyrics mention placing two where there is one. A symbolic signature on the Lindbergh letters shows that very design. The ciphers contain information from the last operation, details for the current one, and a future one that all coincide using the same type of encryption
Jack the Ripper - Lindbergh Kidnapping Letter Comparison - Coding
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Post by eldorado on Dec 19, 2023 5:28:11 GMT -5
And now to identify the culprit that was busy trying to employ himself after his department was shut down. He was asking for money and was using a specific manner of denotation of bills that seemed to also match how much he was being paid when employed by the US off the books.
Comparisons of Numbers - Letter Composition Match
Herbert Osborn Yardley - Comparison - Suspect "John" Police Sketch
How did he get away with it for so long one asks......because he was a master of the art of concealment known as cryptography.
I cite numerous examples of this as well in the next posts, identifying a series of ciphers that not many were in the know about at the time, and were considered literary classics that had a biblical undertone, created by the same person that wrote the King James Version of the Bible, Francis Bacon.
"Baby Is Safe" Princeton, NJ Card Cipher Examinations
"No Medicine" Card Cipher Examinations
There is more as well....almost every letter and card contains a cryptogram or cipher structure with an embedded hint/guide to cracking them.
I am creating a FB page to host the full breakdowns
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Post by eldorado on Dec 19, 2023 6:06:28 GMT -5
Another card has the same layout, with more information about their intention of framing the Germans for this kidnapping.
This time concealing a Swastika in the layout of the blocks of text as well as a declaration that the ransom was for the research into the Polio vaccines
This one also mentions that if the CIC were to get close to them then they would be releasing a Bioweapon, Kid Polio.
Its a bit hard to interpret their tone but they rely on a simple configuration and confinement method using the mass of these ciphers to communicate with the others in their group that were trained to see these and break them down.
"Baby Taken" Card Cipher Examination
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Post by Joe on Dec 19, 2023 14:45:41 GMT -5
It's always refreshing to be able to acknowledge in no uncertain terms, the clear and straightforward circumstantial physical evidence that justly led to the conviction of a mentally-ill, German carpenter from the Bronx for the kidnapping of Charles Lindbergh Jr.
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Post by eldorado on Dec 20, 2023 4:15:16 GMT -5
It's always refreshing to be able to acknowledge in no uncertain terms, the clear and straightforward circumstantial physical evidence that justly led to the conviction of a mentally-ill, German carpenter from the Bronx for the kidnapping of Charles Lindbergh Jr. (Tones of immense levels of sarcasm) Yes its always certain in everyone's eyes to see a series of facts presented in a timeline by authorities that have control over the release of information to the public.
Its a wonderful thing for some people to hear a relieving story and close off all cognitive thought as a human to become a memory bank of their historical and sometimes hysterical narratives.
Lets not dwell remembering the number of people that were falsely executed or people that are found innocent facing death penalties, nor make any mention about the presence of corruption that goes unchecked, with even a number of false admissions seen, and their own wrongful avenues of investigations recorded, when generating a detailed timeline of events. (Tones of absolute disbelief)
Here's the one part....how did they just assume that Hauptmann was guilty having committed EVERY step of the kidnapping all by himself?
The different footprints, the numerous cards and letters that were not in the same handwriting throughout a handoff of a number of trails of clues, and the obvious "catch me if you can" theme with the "volunteer" from the Condon character mimicking the Whitechapel Vigilance Committee masking technique to communicate with the suspect(s).
Its obvious that Hauptmann didn't commit the entirety of the crime himself, and yet it was seamless and effortless throughout the trial that simply enraged the audience and forced them to end his life before he revealed any extent of the affair that would expose the other parties involved.
As you can surely say with an affinity that he was "guilty" and no other avenues needed to be looked into apparently......I can not ignore it so easily.
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Post by eldorado on Dec 20, 2023 4:37:16 GMT -5
How with such a massive estate would Hauptmann be able to find out exactly where the child would be in the house, which had many floors and windows?
And not be seen by anyone that worked on the estate, locating the room where the child was staying, and just arranging to drag a huge wooden ladder himself there across the lawn to the house
Someone was keen to have surveiled the property and the house when they first moved into the house.
I doubt that Hauptmann was involved in the build as a carpenter, but you can tell that he was made to take the fall for something that happened so far away from his home in the Bronx....
Did they mention how he apparently drove the ladder to the house? Or even what kind of car he owned, as you would have to have it parked nearby to get the child off the property.
Its obvious he was working with others but they refuse to mention this fact.
The home had 23 rooms......just a lucky guess that he landed the ladder on the one that had the child?
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Post by thestonesunturned on Dec 20, 2023 10:42:08 GMT -5
You know Lindy lawyer and fixer Henry Skillman Breckinridge was one of THE Breckinridges. Right? He was the great-nephew of James Buchanan's VP John C Breckinridge. Member the plot to kidnap Lincoln before the inauguration and swear in Breckinridge, instead? Member that?
Jesse James and Cole Younger (WAY more important than Jesse) were KGC.
The original Kyklos Klan ("Ku Klux Klan") was founded as a "parody" of the KGC.
Google "William Walker."
You already know New Jersey was crawling with Nazis, crypto-Nazis, and Wolfie Schicklegruber Admiration Societies like America First. The newly-formed New Jersey chapter of the KKK was KICKED OUT of the KKK for being--get this--un-American. Because the leaders of the NJ KKK had proposed a merger with The German-American Bund. Whom the "mainstream" KKK considered to be traitors to America.
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Post by thestonesunturned on Dec 20, 2023 11:04:20 GMT -5
Speaking of MI-8 ("The Black Chamber.") "For legal reasons," they were located in NYC. Anyhoo, due to post-war Republican budget cuts, the unit was de-activated in 1926. and most of the members unemployed. So, what? Welpy, you do know they CAUGHT the guy who was threatening Constance Morrow in 1929, right? He was doing the same thing to several other Deep State families. He was only identified publicly as "a former government de-coder" living in Boston who promised he wouldn't do it again.
So, what? Welpy, the ONLY former member of Yardley's MI-8 who was living in Boston (with his parents) in 1929 was high-strung (and possibly Aspergers) genius Lawrence Fry Safford USN. After Safford got busted for the Constance Morrow affair, the Black Chamber was re-activated and Safford re-assigned to it.
Funny. You know? Not, funny, like, the Italian Army. Funny, like, that swastika painted on the inside of the nose cone of the Spirit of St Louis.
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Post by eldorado on Dec 20, 2023 15:45:25 GMT -5
How does this help expand on the ciphers I posted ?
I think that its a bit long-winded and shows that Yardley had recruits but in other parts of the country other than in NY.
He obviously was the ringleader of the Russian/Jewish spies in the US, who were all basically part of the overall objectives of the previous agendas that were listed in their cabal's documents.
If the US was secretly being manipulated by members of this organization, and they were moving their apparatus around during WWI to incite sentiment about Germans in the US, to step up the pressure on their spies, then it only makes sense that they were trying to implicate another German in the abduction of the child, while their cabal of spies were secretly behind the whole affair.
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Post by eldorado on Dec 20, 2023 16:14:25 GMT -5
You know Lindy lawyer and fixer Henry Skillman Breckinridge was one of THE Breckinridges. Right? He was the great-nephew of James Buchanan's VP John C Breckinridge. Member the plot to kidnap Lincoln before the inauguration and swear in Breckinridge, instead? Member that? Jesse James and Cole Younger (WAY more important than Jesse) were KGC. The original Kyklos Klan ("Ku Klux Klan") was founded as a "parody" of the KGC. Google "William Walker." You already know New Jersey was crawling with Nazis, crypto-Nazis, and Wolfie Schicklegruber Admiration Societies like America First. The newly-formed New Jersey chapter of the KKK was KICKED OUT of the KKK for being--get this--un-American. Because the leaders of the NJ KKK had proposed a merger with The German-American Bund. Whom the "mainstream" KKK considered to be traitors to America. The KKK was founded by Nathaniel Bedford.
The KGC were hiding caches of Gold and Silver, according to the ciphers of the Beale Papers, in Bedford, VA, to commemorate their plans to continue the financial manipulations of Union businesses. They used "Bedford", VA for a reason, as they were all working together and had intended for the KKK members to dig up their caches of weapons and arm themselves for the eventual take-over of the US by force.....when Rockefeller and Morgan were working at a higher level of their operations internationally, they had eventually begun to separate themselves from the interests that they promised to fulfil for the South and concentrated on the NYC/PA cabal that they were forming, leaving the KKK and CSA sympathists in the open as targets, double crossing them.
All later operations of the KGC were halted, and the plans that Pike made to initiate 3 World Wars was brought to its first leap in WWI and the Tsar was overthrown in Russia, the groups' power in the US was then coordinated through the OAK and American Black Legion through the Ivy League cabals that they formed to take control over the institutional system, and separating these specific schools into an "elite" and "common" educational system that was later used to manipulate the masses through Eugenics programs. Generic history was fed to the masses, and a more detailed and coordinated plan was hatched to move their apparatus into the Ivy League fraternal organizations so as to have formed a dedicated and loyal group of proletariats in the US that were taking over the direction of the US.
The KKK were the local organizations in cities around the South that were used to incite political sways of votes to place KGC members in positions of power, to monopolize their local economies for the progress of the members of their higher command structure. The KKK were the goons of the KGC. While this was happening in the South, there were a number of events that took place in the NYC regions financially, with the intention of creating the chaotic states of segregation, and then harnessing their separation to incite division in the US, stalling its progress as a whole.
The KGC and KKK were working together....the KKK was not a "parody" of the KGC. It was the takeover and transition that these cabal members in the US were planning to leave the KGC and KKK in their own circus, as the members of this elite group then conspiring within the ranks of the military to take control over the direction in partnership with the operatives that they groomed and trained under a new era of diplomacy and political direction.
It was also known that groups of subversives were trying to move into locations to bring their own version of these groups under their direction. Members of the Zionist/Jewish cabals in the US were being controlled by the newer spy agencies under Lenin, that sought to take control over the financial districts in NYC/PA to profit under the guise of their interests of spreading Communist popularity and wealth.
In the case of the abduction of Lindbergh's child, you are looking at a foreign subversive group of Jewish Communists that had tried to move to bring these ideals to power to drive a negative image into the minds of Americans about Germans, and people of Germanic descent, to create confusion and to take control over regions surrounding NYC as they were gearing up for WWII.
This being documented in the ciphers that I revealed were part of the whole timeline of affairs beginning in 1880's and moving through decades of repeating and patterned operations.
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Post by eldorado on Dec 21, 2023 3:08:49 GMT -5
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Post by thestonesunturned on Dec 22, 2023 10:50:48 GMT -5
Finally. Someone with a brain.
You know that crazy "Sophie Cerardi" broad who was found locked up in a closet over a horse barn? She and her "husband" had rented Schippel's shack? Got married to a NYC lawyer at 13 and had a son? She, her sister, her second husband, and all her in-laws were Jew-ish (some were "conversos") immigrants from Romania/Moldova. Where did they come from? Standard Oil of New Jersey, who had invested millions in Romanian oil production, had a bunch of them shipped to America, the same way "friendly" Afghans/Iraqis/Salvadorans/etc get shipped to America. I know what you're thinking. You're thinking, "Johan Jakov Nosovitsky..."
J Edgar Hoover relied on Nosovitsky for intelligence on "Bohunk" Commies in America. What Hoover may or may not have known is, Nosovitsky was working for the GRU/CHEKA. Nosovitsky and other snitchkis were actually feeding Lenin's enemies to the FBI for deportation back to Commieland for "debriefing," whilst (snicker) providing cover to real Bolshevik agents in America, Canada, and Mexico. "Mexico???" you're saying. "That's where Nosovitsky assassinated Trotsky!" Bottom line is, Hoover's FBI was crackerjack at deporting all the Commies--except the Bolsheviks. America was infested with thousands of Soviet agents of all ranks until...well, now. The FBI caught almost none of them.
Their North American HQ was in Yonkers, NY. Ever hear of "Son of Sam?" If so, you have heard of Sam Carr and his kids, John, Michael, and Wheat. Welpy, their real name is "Czar." Sam's parents were Jewish immigrants from Ukraine. Sam, his wife Frances, and Sam's sister Julia were investigated by the FBI in connection with the Rosenberg/Hiss affair. Before that, in WWII, Sam and Frances worked as base security at an air base where the Norden bomb sight was tested. Hoover's FBI rounded up the Duchesne Spy Ring at the Norden factory. But the missed the Sam Carr spy ring at the air base. I only mention it because their neighbors, the Netos the other "victims" of Berkowitz's attentions,) were actually Commie spies. In fact, Mr and Mrs Neto didn't even own that house. A collective of Cuban Commies bought it directly from Uncle Sucker. Mr Neto was from Portugal, but his wife was from Cuba. She has bragged in a videotaped interview about being personal friends with Castro.
What does this have to do with Lindy the Nazi? Welpy, the KGB's entree into the US was via the Quebec Liberation Front, who had deals with the Lucchese mob to help them traffic people, money, and munitions from Montreal into New York. Ever see the movie "Telefon" with the late, great, Charles Bronson? That's them. But, they weren't "brainwashed." Just, deep, deep cover. Member those fishy Harvard suicides a few years ago? One of them was the daughter of a senior accountant inside General Electric. A Quebecois senior account. A QLF senior accountant. Her son was convicted of participating in another fishy murder. Etc. Before them, it was the KGC's "underground railroad." As I'm sure you will recall, there were more Confederate agents in Montreal than there were in DC or New York or Richmond. Jesse James and Cole Younger were KGC. The Breckinridges were the royal family of the KGC. And back we are to the New Jersey Klan.
Now, you're saying, "But, what about Manson?" Bobby Beausoleil's parents were QLF immigrants working in the textile mills near Boston. So were Jack Kerouac's parents. Bobby was growing up in a small town San Luis Obispo outside Santa Barbara when Kerouac was shacked up there, receiving visitors like Ginsberg. As children of Boston Quebecois parents who learned to speak French before they learned English at home, Jack had an in with young Bobby. As it were. So, what? Catherine Share was the orphan child of Hungarian Jewish Commie agents trying to overthrow the French government when the Nazis invaded and rounded up Catherine's parents, tortured, and executed them. "Gypsy" was told growing up that Hans Habe (the Robert Maxwell before Robert Maxwell) had sold out her parents, but recently declassified MI6 documents reveal that MI6, and Churchill in particular, sold them out. That didn't stop Gyspy from recruiting Bobby's pal Charlie to get Charlie's "family" to take revenge on Marina Habe. (FWIW, both Robert Maxwell AND Ghislaine's mother were MI6 during the war. Maxwell's real name is Ján Ludvík Hyman Binyamin Hoch. JSYK.) Then, Gypsy got more revenge on CIA Paul Tate's lovely daughter Sharon. Roman Polanski's pal Voytek Frykowski? His father owned a textile factory that printed the camouflage on the Waffen SS's uniforms. He managed to talk the Soviets into letting him keep his factory. Somehow. Anyhoo, Mr Frykowski financed Roman's film career. For some reason. Funny, because, Roman survived the Holocaust. Somehow. And there's Abigail Folger, daughter of Peter Folger, BBF of the CIA, getting wiped out by the saaaaaaaame "CIA" cult experiment...
So, what? A bunch of Manson's kids had dads who worked in aerospace--the same aerospace companies that Lindy fronted for. That had machinists passing plans and specs to the Rosenbergs. You know they worked at US Army Signal Corps Labs in Fort Monmouth, NJ, right? That place (and other facilities in NJ) was sold to Uncle Sucker by...the Guggenheims. The same Guggenheims that funded Goddard's rocket research in--no kinng-Roswell, NM. After Bruno was "convicted" in early 1935, Schwarzkopf split for Teheran where he created SAVAK for the Shah, and Lindy split for Roswell, where he pestered Goddard for details about his revolutionary inertial guidance system. Suddenly, Harry Guggenheim drops dead of a heart attack at age 48 and Goddard's funding is cut off. Does Lindy use his pull at Lockheed, et al to drum up more funding>? Nopey. He heads for The New Germany that he was such a Friend of, and meets Wernher von Braun. Suddenly, von Braun makes this revolutionary breakthrough using an inertial guidance system...
Where were we? Oh, yeah. Commies in the KGC. Long story short: Nobody--NOBODY--could infiltrate rival groups like the NKVD/KGB. Did you know that FIVE of the original 12 members of Wild Bill Donovan's OSS were NKVD officers? Now, imagine how many NJ KKK/Bund/Friends of Wolfie Shickelgruber/America First were NKVD pretending to be American Legion, KGC, GEheimeSTAatsPOlizei...
PS Speaking of the Rosenbergs, "Zodiac" victims Darlene Ferrin and Cheri Jo Bates had dads who did classified work at US Navy machine shops. Darlene's ex-brother-in-law Otis Phillips worked with Cheri Jos dad as machinists at Corona Navy Labs in Riverside. There is a photo of Darlene with Otis taken in the home of another paperclipped Nazi in SF. Darlene's boss at the IHOP was the Hitler Youth son of a paperclipped Nazi. Betty Lou Jensen's dad worked with chemical weapons in the Army before he retired and joined PG&E as a pipeline supervisor. And so on.
Back to Son of Sam. Carl Denaro's stepfather ran the money laundering department at Citibank, which literally "corresponded" (Google it) with the Nugan Hand Bank of Australia. Carl's first cousin Frank Denaro was his assistant and successor. Member when Ollie North tried to tell Congress that that Iran Contra was his first rodeo? There is a photo of him posing with the Board of Nugan Hand. Ever heard of Bill Casey? He was the Jeffrey Epstein before Jeffrey Epstein. He set up the very first American tax havens in the Caribbean (until then, the British banks had an oligarchy there) in the 1930s, before he joined Donovan's OSS. As you know, he ran Ronald "I used to be Commie. Then, I was a Dummycrat. Now, I am suddenly a Republican!" Reagan's presidential campaign. Then, he ran Reagan's CIA. The CIA of Iran-Contra. Etc. That used fuzzy banks in the Caribbean to launder money, drugs, weapons, lawyers...
PPS Oh, yeah. I almost forgot. The US Ambassador (and de facto Chief of Station) to Mexico during all this anti-revolutionary brouhaha was...Dwight Morrow. Future father-in-law of The Colonel...Not to mention, the DOJ's "Bureau of Investigation" was specifically set up to counter revolutionary activity along the US-Mexico "border." For which they hired Gaston Bullock Means, JJ Nosovitsky...But, you knew that, already.
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Post by xjd on Dec 22, 2023 14:34:45 GMT -5
omg, there are now two of you
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Post by Joe on Dec 22, 2023 19:54:40 GMT -5
They'll eventually burn themselves out as one continually seeks to outdo the other. What else can possibly be dragged into the equation that hasn't been brought up so far? The Lindbergh Kidnapping Case is really not a difficult one to find answers within, but witness how easily it can be dressed up for a night on the town.
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Post by lurp173 on Dec 22, 2023 20:59:22 GMT -5
My thought is that if we could just get these two guys to line their hats with some tin foil, this forum could get back to discussing the actual facts and evidence involved in the LKC. Someone needs to introduce both of them to the principle of Occam's Razor.
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Post by IloveDFW on Dec 23, 2023 8:16:52 GMT -5
My thought is that if we could just get these two guys to line their hats with some tin foil, this forum could get back to discussing the actual facts and evidence involved in the LKC. Someone needs to introduce both of them to the principle of Occam's Razor. Lurp...THANK YOU! One is a troll, and the other is trying to gather info for his innocuous "pod cast". I guess the only thing we can do is ignore their novel length posts. Just skip reading them.
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Post by thestonesunturned on Dec 23, 2023 11:23:49 GMT -5
Speaking of "Occam's razor," the man who owned the IHOP where Darlene Ferrin worked was named Henry Schafer, Jr. His father, Heinrich Schafer, Sr, was a founding member of the German American Bund. He was a German immigrant who worked as a highly-skilled engineer/machinist at GM and Curtiss-Wright in Buffalo, NY. In 137, he moved his family back to Germany to transfer his knowledge and work at Porsche and Messerschmidt. He helped develop the "swing axle" used on the VW Beetle drivetrain. Heinrich helped build Hitler's personal prototype of the "Beetle."
After the war, he and his family were allowed to return to Buffalo and he went right back to work for GM--he helped them develop the "swing axle" for the Corvair. As an adult, his son, who was raised in the Hitler Youth and was taken prisoner by the US Army, was awarded one of the very first IHOP franchises, on Tennessee street in Vallejo. By coincidence, Darlene and Jim (they were not actually married) juuuuuuuuuuust happened to be moving back to Vallejo from Albany that fall.
By "coincidence," there is a photo of Darlene standing next to Jim's brother Otis, who was a machinist working at Corona Navy Labs (spy satellites and submarine cameras, etc) alongside Cheri Jo Bates's father, Joe. Darlene's father Leo Suennen was a machinist who worked on nuclear subs at Mare Island, where her real father in law Arthur Ferrin was an electrical engineer. Anyhoo, the house where that photo was taken coincidentally belonged to Horst Heinz Eifler, another paperclipped Nazi who had survived 12 years in Soviet gulags after being taken prisoner at Stalingrad and was brought to the US in 1957. The year the Schafers moved back to Buffalo. Eifler's brother also owned a house on that block. Coincidentally.
So, what? Well, as you already know, The Colonel was, coincidentally enough, the Bund's poster boy and future candidate for US President. He was also directly involved in work at US Signal Corps labs at Fort Monmouth, where the Rosenbergs gathered intel from machinists working at various US defense plants, including GM and Los Alamos, where Ethel's brother made parts of the Fat Man bomb.
Etc etc etc.
For examples of (bleep) for brains, refer to Lurp and Joe and xjd.
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Post by A Guest on Dec 23, 2023 13:09:49 GMT -5
It's always refreshing to be able to acknowledge in no uncertain terms, the clear and straightforward circumstantial physical evidence that justly led to the conviction of a mentally-ill, German carpenter from the Bronx for the kidnapping of Charles Lindbergh Jr. Joe, could you elaborate on why you believe Hauptmann was mentally-ill? This was not a finding of the alienists who examined Hauptmann in 1934. Just curious. Thanks!
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Post by IloveDFW on Dec 23, 2023 14:24:08 GMT -5
Speaking of "Occam's razor," the man who owned the IHOP where Darlene Ferrin worked was named Henry Schafer, Jr. His father, Heinrich Schafer, Sr, was a founding member of the German American Bund. He was a German immigrant who worked as a highly-skilled engineer/machinist at GM and Curtiss-Wright in Buffalo, NY. In 137, he moved his family back to Germany to transfer his knowledge and work at Porsche and Messerschmidt. He helped develop the "swing axle" used on the VW Beetle drivetrain. Heinrich helped build Hitler's personal prototype of the "Beetle." After the war, he and his family were allowed to return to Buffalo and he went right back to work for GM--he helped them develop the "swing axle" for the Corvair. As an adult, his son, who was raised in the Hitler Youth and was taken prisoner by the US Army, was awarded one of the very first IHOP franchises, on Tennessee street in Vallejo. By coincidence, Darlene and Jim (they were not actually married) juuuuuuuuuuust happened to be moving back to Vallejo from Albany that fall. By "coincidence," there is a photo of Darlene standing next to Jim's brother Otis, who was a machinist working at Corona Navy Labs (spy satellites and submarine cameras, etc) alongside Cheri Jo Bates's father, Joe. Darlene's father Leo Suennen was a machinist who worked on nuclear subs at Mare Island, where her real father in law Arthur Ferrin was an electrical engineer. Anyhoo, the house where that photo was taken coincidentally belonged to Horst Heinz Eifler, another paperclipped Nazi who had survived 12 years in Soviet gulags after being taken prisoner at Stalingrad and was brought to the US in 1957. The year the Schafers moved back to Buffalo. Eifler's brother also owned a house on that block. Coincidentally. So, what? Well, as you already know, The Colonel was, coincidentally enough, the Bund's poster boy and future candidate for US President. He was also directly involved in work at US Signal Corps labs at Fort Monmouth, where the Rosenbergs gathered intel from machinists working at various US defense plants, including GM and Los Alamos, where Ethel's brother made parts of the Fat Man bomb. Etc etc etc. For examples of (bleep) for brains, refer to Lurp and Joe and xjd. Thestonesunturned: do not ever message me again, understand? It's harassment.
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Post by thestonesunturned on Dec 25, 2023 9:08:59 GMT -5
Thestonesunturned: do not ever message me again, understand? It's harassment. I literally clicked on the wrong "user" name by accident. It's so hard to tell one (bleep) for brains from another on this website. I also "deleted" the conversation two minutes later when I realized which (bleep) for brains you were. FWIW. That's not an apology. But it is true. I notice that all you do is bitch about "me." Even if it means butting into a thread you literally added less than nothing to EXCEPT bitching about "me." By all means, knock yourself out. You never want to talk about the facts of the case. But, I'm still waiting to hear you "explain" why ANYONE would think those "ransom notes" that DON'T have the "signature" on them are "real." Take aaaaaaaaaaall the time you need. Whilst (snicker) you "think," you can tell us everything YOU know about the Knights of the Golden Circle. Take all the time you need. Where were we? Oh, yeah. The truth. The truth is, there are more spooks in Manson, Zodiac, Son of Sam, and LKC than there are in Langley, VA.
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Post by Sherlock on Dec 26, 2023 4:38:19 GMT -5
“ I do not agree with what you say, but I would defend to my death your right to day it” Voltaire. Ironically there is a price to be paid for “free” speech. We have to endure exposure to the views of those who are immune to countervailing facts and logical argument. In fact it is a mistake to think that these postings are for our benefit. They benefit only the writer, providing as they do, a platform for the exhibition of smart-ass prose and a “Look at me!” mindset. It is narcissistic nonsense and I will defend to the death my right to ignore it.
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Post by Joe on Dec 26, 2023 12:08:22 GMT -5
“ I do not agree with what you say, but I would defend to my death your right to say it” Voltaire. Ironically there is a price to be paid for “free” speech. We have to endure exposure to the views of those who are immune to countervailing facts and logical argument. In fact it is a mistake to think that these postings are for our benefit. They benefit only the writer, providing as they do, a platform for the exhibition of smart-ass prose and a “Look at me!” mindset. It is narcissistic nonsense and I will defend to the death my right to ignore it. Well expressed, Sherlock. And it's a certainty, that here, he will not be able to get the kind of help he truly needs.
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Post by IloveDFW on Dec 27, 2023 4:53:17 GMT -5
“ I do not agree with what you say, but I would defend to my death your right to say it” Voltaire. Ironically there is a price to be paid for “free” speech. We have to endure exposure to the views of those who are immune to countervailing facts and logical argument. In fact it is a mistake to think that these postings are for our benefit. They benefit only the writer, providing as they do, a platform for the exhibition of smart-ass prose and a “Look at me!” mindset. It is narcissistic nonsense and I will defend to the death my right to ignore it. Well expressed, Sherlock. And it's a certainty, that here, he will not be able to get the kind of help he truly needs. It's not even that. He is rude and resorts to name calling.
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Post by thestonesunturned on Dec 27, 2023 7:47:50 GMT -5
If the diaper-fillers are done with their conniption, we can get back onto the topic of this thread: The Knights of the Golden Circle. The Colonel didn't just fly across the Atlantic. He flew all over the Golden Circle. The Golden Circle wasn't just a (bleep) for brains (snicker) fantasy, like Bruno levitating in and out of nursery windows with 30 pound brats. It was a concrete, long-term project that used membership in the American "Union" to lever more colonies away from France and Spain so that they could later secede from the Union and form a new "confederacy" of slave-economy states, running from Virginia all along the Gulf coast down into and including Brazil, and including most of the Caribbean Islands. They put a lot of work into it. Not just (bleep) for brains talk. Actual concrete business and political ties. Google "William Walker." Google "Andrew Jackson's covert invasion of Florida." Google "Lucky Lindy's flights to Cuba, Mexico, Africa, and Brazil." Google "The Confederate States of America." Jeffrey Epstein didn't suddenly invent Bahamas Banking off the top of his head. William Casey set up the first American (as opposed to British) tax shelters in the Caribbean--in the 1930s. At the precise moment Lucky Lindy was frantically trying to shelter millions from Uncle Sucker's New Taxes Deal. Remember all those fascist (bleep) for brains Lindy was cozy with? Google "William Casey." Google "SAVAK." Google "Congressman Lindbergh."
Now, back to these putative "ciphers." What were they supposed to accomplish? Why was it necessary to use "ransom notes?" Who was the intended audience, exactly? What information was being conveyed to them? Why couldn't they just meet for coffee and cubans? What was supposed to HAPPEN when these messages were received?
One thing that DID happen was, a widely publicized conspiracy theory: "The Jews are framing Bruno!" That's funny, because from day one, Lindy tried to make it look like the Jewish "Purple Gang" had snatched the brat. Then, he turns around a vouches for reputed Purple Gang member Betty Gow, and her beard, Red Johnson, who just happened to work for Wall Street fascist Dwight Morrow, who had just been up to his eyeballs in Jews and Commies and Gaston Means. Why? Because they WEREN'T Jewish, exactly? Or, because, they helped Lindy frame "the Jews?" They certainly knew how. Sophie Cerardi and her crew were Jewish immigrants. Even a (bleep) for brains can easily frame THEM for bashing the brat. Guilty, or not.
One way to answer these questions is to look at what DID happen. Instead of framing some "Jews" for this phony "kidnapping," Lindy and his SAVAK (if you've never heard of them, I'll clue you in: they were NOT Jewish. Snicker) crew frame Bruno, and then frame "the Jews" for framing Bruno. But, it doesn't look like framing Bruno was the original "plan." It seems to have been an improvisation. Okay, fine. But, if the ransom notes are how the plotters communicate whilst (snicker) under tight scrutiny by police and reporters, then how did those notes outline the "new" plan to frame Bruno? They didn't.
Unless, of course, there were MORE "ransom" notes. Later. When the heat was off. After the brat was found dead in the woods across the road from Schippel's princely estate. Where the Jewish Sophie Cerardi Chapter of the Friends of the Purple Gang used to shack up.
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Post by Joe on Dec 27, 2023 10:28:03 GMT -5
If the diaper-fillers are done with their conniption, we can get back onto the topic of this thread: The Knights of the Golden Circle. The Colonel didn't just fly across the Atlantic. He flew all over the Golden Circle. The Golden Circle wasn't just a (bleep) for brains (snicker) fantasy, like Bruno levitating in and out of nursery windows with 30 pound brats. It was a concrete, long-term project that used membership in the American "Union" to lever more colonies away from France and Spain so that they could later secede from the Union and form a new "confederacy" of slave-economy states, running from Virginia all along the Gulf coast down into and including Brazil, and including most of the Caribbean Islands. They put a lot of work into it. Not just (bleep) for brains talk. Actual concrete business and political ties. Google "William Walker." Google "Andrew Jackson's covert invasion of Florida." Google "Lucky Lindy's flights to Cuba, Mexico, Africa, and Brazil." Google "The Confederate States of America." Jeffrey Epstein didn't suddenly invent Bahamas Banking off the top of his head. William Casey set up the first American (as opposed to British) tax shelters in the Caribbean--in the 1930s. At the precise moment Lucky Lindy was frantically trying to shelter millions from Uncle Sucker's New Taxes Deal. Remember all those fascist (bleep) for brains Lindy was cozy with? Google "William Casey." Google "SAVAK." Google "Congressman Lindbergh." Now, back to these putative "ciphers." What were they supposed to accomplish? Why was it necessary to use "ransom notes?" Who was the intended audience, exactly? What information was being conveyed to them? Why couldn't they just meet for coffee and cubans? What was supposed to HAPPEN when these messages were received? One thing that DID happen was, a widely publicized conspiracy theory: "The Jews are framing Bruno!" That's funny, because from day one, Lindy tried to make it look like the Jewish "Purple Gang" had snatched the brat. Then, he turns around a vouches for reputed Purple Gang member Betty Gow, and her beard, Red Johnson, who just happened to work for Wall Street fascist Dwight Morrow, who had just been up to his eyeballs in Jews and Commies and Gaston Means. Why? Because they WEREN'T Jewish, exactly? Or, because, they helped Lindy frame "the Jews?" They certainly knew how. Sophie Cerardi and her crew were Jewish immigrants. Even a (bleep) for brains can easily frame THEM for bashing the brat. Guilty, or not. One way to answer these questions is to look at what DID happen. Instead of framing some "Jews" for this phony "kidnapping," Lindy and his SAVAK (if you've never heard of them, I'll clue you in: they were NOT Jewish. Snicker) crew frame Bruno, and then frame "the Jews" for framing Bruno. But, it doesn't look like framing Bruno was the original "plan." It seems to have been an improvisation. Okay, fine. But, if the ransom notes are how the plotters communicate whilst (snicker) under tight scrutiny by police and reporters, then how did those notes outline the "new" plan to frame Bruno? They didn't. Unless, of course, there were MORE "ransom" notes. Later. When the heat was off. After the brat was found dead in the woods across the road from Schippel's princely estate. Where the Jewish Sophie Cerardi Chapter of the Friends of the Purple Gang used to shack up. I presume the Frederickson's German Shepherd fits somewhere into the above, but can you tell us precisely where? If you can somehow tie in Hans Kloppenburg, you'll have the Lindbergh Kidnapping Case's own version of the Three Stooges, "Hauppy, Kloppy and Whoppie." I'm not sure what religion or political persuasion the dog was affiliated with, and this will no doubt affect its potential involvement with any number of your above groups and further insights.
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Post by Joe on Dec 29, 2023 8:58:08 GMT -5
It's always refreshing to be able to acknowledge in no uncertain terms, the clear and straightforward circumstantial physical evidence that justly led to the conviction of a mentally-ill, German carpenter from the Bronx for the kidnapping of Charles Lindbergh Jr. Joe, could you elaborate on why you believe Hauptmann was mentally-ill? This was not a finding of the alienists who examined Hauptmann in 1934. Just curious. Thanks! Off the top, I think one has to seriously ask themselves how it would have been possible for anyone so conclusively proven to have been intimately involved within the kidnapping and ransom of the son of arguably the most famous and respected man in the world, carry through with such a scheme, be able to calmly look over his shoulder for two and a half years, totally frustrate his eventual captors with claims of absolute innocence, stoically endure the Flemington trial showcase, and then ultimately go to his death still proclaiming the same absolute innocence, without suffering from some degree of mental illness or injury.
The alienists (psychiatrists) within the Huddleson Report were gently probing Richard Hauptmann, without making any assumption of complicity on his part in the crime. Their analysis was not biased by any judgment of guilt or non-guilt, although they did attempt at times to have Hauptmann provide further indications which might then lead them to more focused lines of questioning, relating directly to the crime.
Psychiatric evaluation of what constituted mental illness in 1934, compared to what it is today, was relatively primitive. If these same alienists had had the benefit of modern day psychiatry and case studies at their disposal while knowing full well the extent of the circumstantial physical evidence which stood solidly against their subject, I believe they would have ultimately diagnosed Hauptmann in part:
Psychotic Disorder >>> Schizophrenic Condition >>> Delusions of Grandeur >>> Connections: Subject’s belief in a connection or a feeling of entitlement towards some association with someone or something significant well beyond the subject’s own sphere of influence.
Other factors would include primal greed for a more desirable lifestyle as demonstrated by the $50,000 ransom and giving up his carpentry vocation. And quite possibly, some permanent but undiagnosed brain damage (mental injury) from the impact of shrapnel to his head during WWI. Such injuries are known to promote character changes for the worse, and also a higher degree of risk taking, (Kamenz crimes, prison escape, stock market trading) of which there was no shortage within the overall commission of this crime.
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Post by thestonesunturned on Dec 29, 2023 9:10:46 GMT -5
That has has less than nothing to do with this thread.
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Post by Joe on Dec 29, 2023 9:19:31 GMT -5
I was responding to Guest's question which appeared in this thread.
It happens often here when a keyword or comment leads to other ideas, not necessarily directly related to the thread's original intent.
Not always a bad thing, but I understand your point.
Ultimately, the Search feature can help to locate specific posts from the main or secondary menus.
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