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Post by instadukcelol on Dec 30, 2023 16:12:46 GMT -5
CAL was what John Stamos was on SVU—-a reproductive abuser. Narcissist with an inferiority complex trying to engineer a master race.
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Post by xjd on Dec 31, 2023 5:12:54 GMT -5
i remember that episode! super creepy guy. i think it was both a little of master-race making and also just plain wanting sex for CAL who seemed so uptight most of the time. probably thought it safer to do it far away from home. also i seem to recall reading that while young (in college or military?) CAL would tease other guys who were talking to their girls on the phone. i think CAL was awkward and uncomfortable with that that kind of thing while secretly desiring it.
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Post by Ella on Jan 6, 2024 7:51:20 GMT -5
Interesting question, Joe. The name appears to have been a surname, not a first name. It appears to be French with families by that surname living in Canada. Lindbergh may have been acquainted with someone with that surname and may have chosen it because it resembles the name of "Clark" for the surname "Kent." I would like to know the meaning of the name "Careu" if anyone knows it. The Hesshaimer Sisters were born in Kronstadt in Siebenbürgen, a german foundation in the Middle Ages in Romania. So maybe the name „Careu“ was an idea of the sisters. I am a German and live in Munich. I have the book by Rudolf Schröck. As I remember only Brigitte Hesshaimer was a little bit handicapped. According to the book, Lindbergh was facinated by the Hesshaimer Sister’s will to overcome all the problems and difficulties of the war and the war-related flight and the pioneering Spirit of making a new living in Munich. Valeska had a very different background. She came from a wealthy noble family. She did not need Lindberghs financial support. And in the book and further publications it was alleged that she had no idea about the Hesshaimer/Lindbergh offspring.
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Post by ellie on Mar 7, 2024 0:08:30 GMT -5
Has anyone heard about letters that Anne sent to her mother which were found in the mother's attic after her death...in these letters Anne complained about Lindberg's frightening habit of swinging the child around the room by an arm....she was afraid of an accident which might occur.....
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Post by Reply on Mar 7, 2024 13:49:03 GMT -5
Has anyone heard about letters that Anne sent to her mother which were found in the mother's attic after her death...in these letters Anne complained about Lindberg's frightening habit of swinging the child around the room by an arm....she was afraid of an accident which might occur..... Such letters would be interesting. There is an entry on this subject in Anne Lindbergh's diary in a letter written to her mother-in-law on Feb. 7, 1932 (Hour of Gold..., page 223): Sr.: "Want to go up?" Jr.: "Uh huh." Jr. (high in the air): "Down! Down!" Sr.: "Again?" Jr.: "Naw!" Sr.: "Want to swing?" Jr.: "Uh huh." Charles puts him down after swinging. Jr.: "Den! Den! Den!" And I vaguely remember something about Charles taking Charlie "ceiling flying" but don't remember the source.
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Post by W. Guillory on Mar 24, 2024 10:13:26 GMT -5
Very analytical! I agree that his behavior (having children that he knew he would hide away)was born out of pure selfishness. Also, secreting seven children with three mothers is repulsive and cowardly to say the least— he was an intelligent and strategic man that knew this was for his benefit only. The most poignant point you made is that this truly only proves just how deceptive Lindbergh was. He believes himself to be smarter than everyone around him and his status afforded him this. One more very disturbing point that needs to be mentioned here is the fact he reproduced these illegitimate children with biological sisters. To me that shows how methodical his planning was to get away with this behavior for a lifetime. It seemed to work with one sister so why not go get pleasure from another lover that will work toward his connivence and cunning ways.
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Post by W. Guillory on Mar 24, 2024 10:21:11 GMT -5
Very analytical! I agree that his behavior (having children that he knew he would hide away)was born out of pure selfishness. Also, secreting seven children with three mothers is repulsive and cowardly to say the least— he was an intelligent and strategic man that knew this was for his benefit only. The most poignant point you made is that this truly only proves just how deceptive Lindbergh was. He believes himself to be smarter than everyone around him and his status afforded him this. One more very disturbing point that needs to be mentioned here is the fact he reproduced these illegitimate children with biological sisters. To me that shows how methodical his planning was to get away with this behavior for a lifetime. It seemed to work with one sister so why not go get pleasure from another lover that will work toward his connivence and cunning ways. One more thing, isn’t it coincidental that he was called a “Sympathizer” and had interested in eugenics and it seems very crafty chose not one but THREE German women to father his illegitimate children with? That fits to neatly in his background and his thinking of race as a hierarchy. Edit: I thought I was responding to another person’s point on here so that’s why it’s written as such. Thanks to those with factual insight— proves that you research before giving your educated opinion on matters.
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Post by Ann on Apr 11, 2024 23:27:15 GMT -5
Perhaps another reason for the women wanting children - these women were in their late teens when the WW II ended. Estimates differ, but some say over 5 million German soldiers died. (Subtract a million who were conscripted from neighboring countries.) At the start of that war, Germany's population was about 66 million. Near the end of the war, with so many soldiers lost, the military was taking on young teenage boys. There were fewer men to marry in the age range of Brigitte, Marietta, and Valeska. By 1957, in their early 30s, the women would have even fewer prospects. Even if the women developed petty jealousies with each other, they may also have understood the yearning that each had for a child and the desire to repopulate their country. And in addition to creating children together, Lindbergh could support them. Lindbergh seemed to have a genuine love and connection with his mistresses and children, but part initially could have been the understanding that he was helping to rebuild the population of Germany after the devastating losses. It did make his life complicated, but he also said the first pregnancy made him very happy. This may have given him a sense of purpose.
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