Here's an example... The Philadelphia Federal Reserve Bank advised the FBI that it had set aside $49,000 A and B series $5 Federal Reserve Notes which could be examined to determine if they were ransom notes on 3-28-35. Hoover asked Schwarzkopf how to proceed to which Schwarzkopf advised him the NJSP did not want to examine any of the notes and if any were identified to take them out "for destruction."
The bills discovered after the 5/1/35 note listed above fall into the "unofficial" category. Eventually Governor Hoffman stepped in and more information was developed, however, much information was obviously lost. There was a bill that appears to have been found in '36 and another in '38. There are letters to Kimberling asking if there would be a reward if any were turned over - he had no choice to advise there was not but to request any information regardless. It seems to me people either didn't want to get involved without compensation, getting "plugged" by those culprits at large, and/or the possibility of losing their money and getting nothing in return.
The small bundle of cash -- the only cash -- ever recovered from the 1971 skyjacking by the infamous bandit known as D.B. Cooper will be on display for the first time at a coin and collectibles show in Long Beach, Calif. tomorrow through Saturday.
"This is the only identifiable group of United States currency that can be directly linked to such an historic and infamous event. The only comparison of such significance would possibly be the Lindbergh ransom money, but none of those notes is known to have survived for collectors today", said Jason W. Bradford, president of PCGS Currency, the company that has authenticated the cash.
(I do not believe for a second that Lindbergh ransom is not floating around out there. Dena)
Dena, I doubt that those bills are floating around as they are quite distinctive and more valuable than their face value even as non-LKC notes. If there are any out there remaining they are either in a collectors hands or still hidden. Did you see the news about the contractor in Ohio that found the $182,000 in 1927-1929 currency hidden in the walls? I think it was estimated to be worth around $500,000. Hauptmann had 2 1/2 years to play with and we know how good he was at hiding things , so it's not inconceivable that there is still some that was never discovered.
Kev, I meant that it would be in the hands of private collectors. It would be quite a treasure for LKC collectors I would imagine. But you pointed out something I never thought of that makes so much sense. I have never ever thought about as yet undiscovered money. (Well, I have but not in relation to BRH). I didn't hear about the Ohio contractor, but you are right. BRH house still standing. Too bad somebody couldn't get in there with the sonar tech etc they have today. And perhaps go over the grounds with GPR.
You know who else was secretive & I have heard liked to hide things? Jafsie. Another house it would be great to get into.
I think there is still a lot of info/letters/memoirs, maybe even evidence, that people have stored but havent made available. Including ransom. More likely though people having stuff that they arent even aware might have a link to this case.
I bet you are right. I never thought of that one either. You are a "good idea" person. Do you live back East? I live in Washington State & I can hardly stand being so far away from these places . lol I especially want to take Richard Sloan's tour.
Anybody ever ask the current owners if they might allow access to these houses? Sometimes if money involved people jump. Of course the historical value to collectors probably worth more than face value of any monies that might be found.
Would you happen to know if the actual rooming house at 149-127th still standing? It looks as if according to Google Earth as if it might be a parking lot now. I tried to find out which speakeasy Violet went to but there were over 300 speakeasies that had operated in Harlem so I havent found out much yet. Somebody probably already has this info though.
I also found out something about Robert Hector that was also a "minister" at the Birittella church. He had continued to "practice" and had moved to a church on 245 West 72nd st. I wonder if the Birrittella's moved with him or continued to practice where they had been. I'll tell you, those two just fascinate me. I think that I may have found her, but not sure same one. But there was a Mary Birrittella that died in 1976. Even more interesting is that I found a Birrittella Bakery in Yonkers! Still owned by Birrittellas too. I am assuming that they are connected to Peters B's brother as Birrittella not a common name. How many Birrittella Bakeries could there be or have been in Yonkers? Unfortunately they are not online.
I live in New Jersey and am lucky enough to have visited the sites as well as the NJSP museum where Mark Falzini has so graciously allowed me to play with the evidence. My favorite is definitely Highfields in Hopewell though sitting on the porch of the Union Hotel in Flemington is always a treat. From what I understand the former Rausch home/ Hauptmann apt in the Bronx is not visitor friendly, which I can well understand.
Well, I have got to see Constance Morrow Morgan's home in Ridgefield, Washington State. Probably the closest Ill ever come. LOL I wrote to her when I was a kid & she wrote back. Her letter to me was very sweet. I think the Morrow's were a lovely family. I only live about 20 miles from Ridgefield, Washington State where she & her husband, Aubrey Neil Morgan built a home. Did you know that Aubrey Neil Morgan was first married to AML & CMM's eldest sister, Elisabeth? The same Elisabeth that author Noel Behn thought killed the baby? But several years after Elisabeth died of a heart ailment he married the youngest Morrow sister, Constance. Personally, I always have thought this was rather different. But I do think that they ended up having a very long & happy marriage. So as long as they were happy that is all that mattered.
The oddest place in the entire world to build is Ridgefield, let me tell you. Wonder whatever possessed them to do that. Its still considered being in the sticks today so I can only imagine what it was like 50-60 years ago. They have a police force with about 5-6 cops now though.
The spot where DB's Coopers money was found is Frenchmans Bar in Vancouver, Washington State. On the Washington Side of the Columbia River. I'm only a couple of miles from the spot. We Washingtonians get kind of testy about people saying DB dropped out "somewhere over Oregon". He did not. He belongs to legend as well as to SW Washington State. Oregon can get their own damned legends. A bar up in Ariel WA about 50 miles north of the Oregon-Washington border has a welcome back DB party every November. They swear he has shown up. Who knows? There are several of the suspects who still live in these parts. So maybe he really has. LOL My family used to spend every Thanksgiving with one of them. He had been a pilot in the Civil Air Patrol in Cowlitz county. Of course, now, it is a badge of honor to have been included among the original suspects. It wasn't at the time of course.
The DB Cooper case is one case, as perplexing as it is, that I hope remains unsolved. As much as I want to know who he really was, I hope it is never solved. And if it does get solved, I sure hope to Hell its not by an Oregonian.
He was the best kind of criminal. Hurt no one & left a fabulous legend behind.
Michael: Talked to him a couple of months ago.
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jack7: Heey Michael - seen Dave around?
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Michael: Talked to him a couple of months ago.
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Laurence24: Bonjour à tous les membres,et merci d'avoir crée ce forum. Je me présente à vous, mon prénom est mon pseudo. Je suis de France. Pendant mon sommeil,John Edgar Hoover m'a montré son vécu mais également une infinie partie d'indices concernant le nom du forum
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Michael: Bienvenue Laurence. Allez-y et postez ce qu'il vous a dit - ça a l'air intéressant ...
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stella7: Sorry for the short notice but there’s a documentary on Anne Morrow Lindbergh on at 8:30 tonight. Channel 23 New Jersey Public Television
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wolfman666: the half hour one made in 2017? it was very good
Mar 14, 2020 9:23:46 GMT -5
Laurence24: Bonjour Mickael,ainsi que tous les autres membres de ce forum..
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Laurence24: Et merci de m'avoir acceptée chaleureusement dans votre forum..
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Michael: Je vais consulter le site. N'hésitez pas à publier ou à créer un fil de discussion sur le babillard à ce sujet. Vous pouvez également y poster un lien car je crains que beaucoup ne lisent pas cette shoutbox.
Mar 20, 2020 9:56:06 GMT -5
Laurence24: Moi qui comprend pas l'anglais, j'ai été surprise de sa première visite dans mon rêve, quand j'ai cherchée par mots clés, et que j'ai découvert qui il était ou ou il avait vécu, je me suis dis, wouah !! dans l'au delà, ils peuvent faire beaucoup de choses
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Laurence24: Bonjour et merci à vous Michaël,je viens de suivre votre conseil..
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