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Post by jack7 on May 1, 2016 12:50:19 GMT -5
You can always have your appendix out and to the world it looks like you were really ill. According to Harry Green, he and the Governor thought the appendix story/heart baloney was BS.
One thing I've noticed about people that are sick all the time - they're sickos.
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Post by Michael on May 1, 2016 13:24:25 GMT -5
Governor Hoffman's attorney, Harry Green, stated regarding Elisabeth's death, "We heard rumors that it may have been a suicide." Governor Hoffman seemed inclined towards Elisabeth's involvement in TLC and there may be something about her in The Hoffman Papers - results of his latter investigation into the crime. If there was it ain't there now. However, that could be because Green had it. Here's a re-tweet from an earlier post which may compliment this converstation:
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Post by hurtelable on May 1, 2016 13:29:56 GMT -5
I could be wrong on the cause of the aortic stenosis. But regardless of whether she was born with it or contracted it from rheumatic fever as young child, aortic stenosis was undoubtedly significant factor by the time she reached her early 30s. Regardless of the original cause, aortic stenosis can lead to heart failure, which in turn can predispose to pneumonia, which in turn can lead to death. We do know that Elisabeth had had a serious bout of pneumonia several years earlier.
Remember that this sequence of tragic physical deterioration that ultimately killed her was not uncommon in the 1930s. If Elisabeth had been fortunate enough to have been born decades later, it is very likely that she would have lived a much longer and generally healthier life, largely because of the development of antibiotics that could have blunted the pneumonia, and heart surgery techniqhes that could have improved the impairment to blood flow caused by the aortic stenosis.
I did read somewhere that CAL Sr.'s interest in the development of an artificial heart and his friendship and collaboration with Dr. Carrel were motivated at least in part by his sister-in-law's heart disease. It is also possible that CAL Sr., being the eugenics advocate that he was, could have chosen to marry the healthier Anne and snub the sickly older sister Elisabeth.
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Post by hurtelable on May 1, 2016 13:42:19 GMT -5
You can always have your appendix out and to the world it looks like you were really ill. According to Harry Green, he and the Governor thought the appendix story/heart baloney was BS. One thing I've noticed about people that are sick all the time - they're sickos. When you piece it all together in the context of the relatively primitive status of medicine and surgery at the time, you can see that Elisabeth probably had legitimate serious medical problems for most of her life, which ultimately led to her death at a young age. And perhaps whatever psychiatric problems she had were largely due to the fact that she knew from an early age that her life would be brief and impaired by physical illness.
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Post by jack7 on May 2, 2016 5:56:46 GMT -5
Attorney Green, Esq., did have more information. According to Behn, in an interview with Green the attorney revealed that he had affidavits from the chauffeur (probably Ellerson) and a Morrow maid affirming that Elisabeth had been left alone with Charlie at the Lindbergh estate the Saturday prior to TLC. Ellerson claimed he saw Charlie with his head bashed in on the drive, and heard Elisabeth "ranting and raving upstairs." Not sure who the Morrow maid would have been at CAL's - Miss Root? Anyway Green claims he had the affidavits which Governor Hoffman had given him for safekeeping. So to keep 'em safe Green had them in an office storeroom and there was a flood (sound kinda like a True Detective treasure hunting story?)
Because all of his papers were destroyed the janitor threw them out without checking with Green first.
Another part of the tale was that in spite of being warned never to leave Charlie alone with Elisabeth, Ollie and his wife went grocery shopping and left the two alone.
Behn contradicts himself on a few things about Elisabeth.
She, though, despite being a player in the quest for CAL and a family principal certainly managed to keep herself in the background. Fisher and Gardner each give her about half a line. Constance gets pages - Judge Trenchard is more suspicious than Elisabeth!
She apparently went missing from residences and work for a week or so after the crime - again this is contradictory so is as much an unknown as anything. She was seen once scooting from Elizabeth's Estate during that time period.
Her illnesses in part seem timely to other tragedies.
I thought when first looking at TLC that Elisabeth was a good antagonist candidate, but looking more closely it seems she just had what started strong but turned into an unhappy and unhealthy life.
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Post by sweetwater on May 3, 2016 2:11:52 GMT -5
I've certainly "looked" at Elisabeth, but I've pretty much come up with that it's unlikely. Not impossible -- there could be all kinds of things lurking beneath the shallow depth to which I know anything about this case -- but she's not on my short list.
Even looking at her, I've always wondered whether the oft-cited "jealousy" would likely be a motive. I'm not all that sure that there was ever anything between CAL and Elisabeth -- or that she really wanted there to be. I know there was heavy media speculation at one point that she and CAL were an item, and maybe that was sort of a thrill for her, but I wouldn't be too surprised if, deep down, CAL didn't really appeal to her on a personal level and that she thought him better suited, really, for Anne. Oh, there may have been a little rivalry, a little hurt pride...but it is hard for me to think it amounted to something that would drive her to hurt her little nephew!
With Elisabeth and also with Dwight Jr., the only things I've ever really much considered are that a truly out-of-control state (psychosis, delirium) or possibly a true accident (through negligence or inattention, say) MIGHT have led to something tragic. And, while not ruling it out completely, I tend to think AT THIS POINT that is not what happened.
As for the Elisabeth "rumors" and the stuff peeking out from Hoffman's efforts, there is one thing that has crossed my mind a few times and that is: IF any of the family (other than Elisabeth) had a part in Charlie's disappearance and/or had stuff to hide in regard to it, it COULD be that, when Elisabeth's name came up in suspicions, it was "allowed" to some extent or even passively encouraged. By the time of the Hoffman investigation, Elisabeth was long dead. She left no children of her own to be troubled or damaged by such intimations. I hate to put it this way, but it could have been a case of "someone" deciding, "Better suspicion fall on her than on (fill in the blank)".
I've even gone as far as to wonder, at times, if any affidavits that existed from Ellerson (or whoever it was) might have come about as a somewhat desperate move when, perhaps, it seemed that something else -- what, I'm not sure -- was threatening to surface, under investigation.
Just some meandering thoughts.
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Post by hurtelable on May 12, 2016 15:28:30 GMT -5
I've noticed that a few web sites (including Ronelle Delmont's "Lindbergh Kidnapping Hoax") refer mistakenly to LKC suspect Jacob NOSOVITSKY as "Jacob Novitsky." I suppose this error is understandable since "Novitsky" is a much more common surname than "Nosovitsky," but one can only guess at the degree of important information on the LKC that may have been lost by researchers (and perhaps even government officials) making this error. Could it be perhaps that at least some of Noso's criminal record and other life history might have been misfiled in archives under "Novitsky"?
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Post by Michael on May 12, 2016 19:40:06 GMT -5
I've noticed that a few web sites (including Ronelle Delmont's "Lindbergh Kidnapping Hoax") refer mistakenly to LKC suspect Jacob NOSOVITSKY as "Jacob Novitsky." I suppose this error is understandable since "Novitsky" is a much more common surname than "Nosovitsky," but one can only guess at the degree of important information on the LKC that may have been lost by researchers (and perhaps even government officials) making this error. Could it be perhaps that at least some of Noso's criminal record and other life history might have been misfiled in archives under "Novitsky"? This is a very good point you are making. At the NJSP Archives I've run into similar problems with other names as well. As just one example, I was following a line of reports once concerning the "Schlacht" family when they suddenly stopped. Sometime later I found a string of investigations concerning the "Slack" family when, from the content, I could clearly see was actually the back end of the investigation concerning the "Schlacht" family.
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Post by hurtelable on Jul 14, 2016 9:16:57 GMT -5
To All:
Does anyone have any documentation on the whereabouts of Jacob Nosovitsky (under his real name or any of his many aliases) after 1938? If so, might there be any death record of him that someone has come up with?
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Post by Michael on Jul 16, 2016 16:01:15 GMT -5
Does anyone have any documentation on the whereabouts of Jacob Nosovitsky (under his real name or any of his many aliases) after 1938? If so, might there be any death record of him that someone has come up with? Although I have documentation which concerns him from the 1940s, it doesn't mention if he was alive or dead at the time. I have never been able to find an obituary. Here is a document you might find interesting. Since the majority of my material comes from the NJSP Archives I think it's important for me to mention this came from the Records Management Division of the FBI:
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Post by hurtelable on Jul 16, 2016 16:47:44 GMT -5
Does anyone have any documentation on the whereabouts of Jacob Nosovitsky (under his real name or any of his many aliases) after 1938? If so, might there be any death record of him that someone has come up with? Although I have documentation which concerns him from the 1940s, it doesn't mention if he was alive or dead at the time. I have never been able to find an obituary. Here is a document you might find interesting. Since the majority of my material comes from the NJSP Archives I think it's important for me to mention this came from the Records Management Division of the FBI: Interesting that by 1938, J. Edgar Hoover still remembered the name Jacob Nosovitsky, which he indicated in his note on the posted document. And as the posted document indicates, the FBI was still aware enough of Noso in 1938 for there to have been an internal FBI memo concerning Noso's incident then written out. Although the memo writer indicates that there is no record of Noso as a former BI agent, Noel Behn specifically states in his book that Hoover himself had met with Noso in New York harbor c. 1919. Hoover himself may have destroyed Noso's record as a BI agent in the early 1920s after Noso double-crossed him after Hoover had given Noso a favorable recommendation with respect to credit worthiness. (That story is also detailed in Behn's "LIndbergh: The Crime.") BTW, the subject of the memo, Noso's being kidnapped and beaten in the Bronx in 1938, has been mentioned on these boards before. The incident did draw some attention in the New York newspapers at the time. One possibility is that Noso might have been attacked in the Bronx by friends of "Jafsie" Condon in retaliation for filing a defamation suit against "Jafsie."
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Post by feathers on Jul 21, 2016 13:51:07 GMT -5
I think I can advance the Nosovitsky time line a little bit. To establish the below facts, I have to go back a bit. Recall that when Nosovitsky was tried for bigamy in 1928, it was alleged that he married his “first” wife Esther Levine in January 1924 in Montreal. A copy of the marriage certificate is attached – note that in the margin it says in French that the marriage was annulled in 1929.
Well, in November 1938, Esther Levine Nosovitsky applied for naturalization in California. The document is too large to attach, but it is on ancestry.
She says her husband (living with her in Los Angeles) is Jerome A. Nosovitsky, birth date 21 May 1891. I would suggest that the possible coincidence of there being two women named Esther Levine who married a man named Nosovitsky in January 1924 in Montreal is highly unlikely and that Jerome is another alias for Nosovitsky.
If we accept that, there is another form from 1941, in which Esther Nosovitsky actually finalized the naturalization. In that form she gives various aliases of her own, including Nosow and Nosovitsky.
More importantly, she states that she is then divorced and that her ex-husband, Jerome Arthur Nosovitsky, born 21 May 1891, is living apart from her in Los Angeles.
From that we can look at the 1942 draft registration cards, there is an “Arthur Jack Nosow” with the same birth date (21 May 1891), living in Los Angeles. He claims to be in business for himself at 353 South Vermont Avenue, Los Angeles. Interestingly, it gives his birthplace as Brooklyn, but adds a question mark. The handwriting on the form is clearly different from the signature of Nosow, so apparently it was filled out by someone else.
Not much, but it is a little farther than 1938.
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Post by hurtelable on Jul 21, 2016 18:29:17 GMT -5
Good detective. work, feathers!
At last we have a presumptive date of birth for Nosovitsky, and we know he was alive up through (at least) 1942. You can probably find out his business c. 1942, via a Los Angeles city directory of that time.
You will not find him under the name Nosovitsky in either the 1930 nor the 1940 US census, but it may be worth checking out the names "Nosow," "Nossow," "Nasow," etc.
As to his marriage to Esther Levine and the document you posted, note that in the left-hand margin of the handwritten marriage document, there is a note handwritten in French. Although it's not too legible to me, I see that it states that the the marriage was annulled (in Montreal, I presume) in 1929. So if Esther was applying for US citizenship c. 1938 and claiming she was married to Noso at the time, she was probably lying to authorities.
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Post by hurtelable on Aug 26, 2016 17:35:41 GMT -5
I have located Nosovitsky in the 1940 United States Census using the name "Arthur Nosow." Not surprisingly, we know that at least some of the data listed for him (including his name!) is phony. It hardly comes as a shock that Noso would lie to a census taker when he found it convenient. Here is his census data, as told by Noso himself and written down by the census taker, presumably.
Arthur Nosow is a DIVORCED white male, 46 years old (a few years younger than on his draft registration), living as a lodger at 507 South West Lake Avenue in Los Angeles, CA. Also living in the same household are two possible female romantic interests of Noso,: Margaret Reiter, age 45 and the daughter of the head of the household (Margaret's mother Jenny), and Eva Panton, age 39. "Nosow" lists himself as having completed four years of college (LOL!) and an unemployed cosmetics salesman (this is consistent with what he told fellow prison inmates in back in New York a decade earlier). He claims to have been a resident of Los Angeles back in 1935 (highly dubious) and to have been born in the state of California (absurd!) He worked only 15 weeks in the year 1939 and was unemployed for 32 weeks leading up to March 30, 1940 (Perhaps he was into what today we would call welfare fraud.)
It's possible there is more on "Nosow" during this period in the LA newspapers and/or the LAPD files. Would not be shocked if he was into criminal activity of some sort.
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Post by hurtelable on May 4, 2017 8:42:08 GMT -5
Just a very important question on Nosovitsky that needs more attention than it has been receiving here:
Was Nosovitsky "Cemetery John"? Why or why not?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 7:50:58 GMT -5
For those who consider Nosovitsky as a person of interest in the LKC, I wanted to post a picture I found recently at the archives. The picture was listed as an unidentified person but I was immediately struck by how much it made me think of J.J. Nosovitsky, only he was younger in this picture. His attire reminded me that back in the early 1920's, Noso traveled/sailed under the alias of Dr. John/Joseph Anderson. I am not saying this is a picture of Nosovitsky but I do wonder if it might be. imgur.com/nMgbWrwHere is an archive picture of a more mature Nosovitsky. imgur.com/z9yWchL
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Post by Joe on Aug 24, 2019 10:18:44 GMT -5
For those who consider Nosovitsky as a person of interest in the LKC, I wanted to post a picture I found recently at the archives. The picture was listed as an unidentified person but I was immediately struck by how much it made me think of J.J. Nosovitsky, only he was younger in this picture. His attire reminded me that back in the early 1920's, Noso traveled/sailed under the alias of Dr. John/Joseph Anderson. I am not saying this is a picture of Nosovitsky but I do wonder if it might be. imgur.com/nMgbWrwHere is an archive picture of a more mature Nosovitsky. imgur.com/z9yWchLYes Amy, that's a younger Nosovitsky, during the time he posed as ship's surgeon aboard the Mauritania. Henry Marsh, an American capitalist set him up with the credentials and this allowed Nosovitsky to travel regularly between New York and England, so he could report on his double agent undercover activities to both British and American interests. Thanks for posting the other one, which I hadn't previously seen.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2019 6:31:31 GMT -5
Thanks, Joe for confirming the ID of that picture and for explaining where and what Nosovitsky was doing while operating under his Doctor alias. Any thoughts on why Noso picked up the nickname of "Doc"? I believe Condon claimed that one of the gang was called Doc.
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Post by Joe on Aug 26, 2019 8:21:55 GMT -5
Thanks, Joe for confirming the ID of that picture and for explaining where and what Nosovitsky was doing while operating under his Doctor alias. Any thoughts on why Noso picked up the nickname of "Doc"? I believe Condon claimed that one of the gang was called Doc. Amy, that picture of a younger Nosovitsky in a ship's service hat is also in a collection of FBI Files (Hoover Official and Confidential Files, Folder 120, Parts A and B) I requested from Marquette University in 2004. Regarding Condon's reference to "Doc," was Nosovitsky not also referred to that way by Dinny Doyle and Wally Stroh during their statements to investigators following up on his trail? I can certainly understand how he might have been given that nickname having posed as surgeon aboard the Mauritania, but I'm not positive where it came from. As for Condon's claim about having been accosted by the group of five men off Throgg's Neck, it could well have occurred and I do believe that originally there was a more expansive plot involving others, one which may have been able to provide adequate care for CALjr before his return for the ransom payment. Following the accidental death of the child during the ladder retreat from the nursery window, Hauptmann essentially took the ransom negotiations lead while the others scattered into the woodwork like roaches, with at least one of them resurfacing for his share, that person possibly being Jacob Nosovitsky. I believe there is also strong evidence to suggest Fisch was involved within the money laundering operation, and that he left his share of the ransom payment gold certificates with Hauptmann as witnessed by Kloppenburg, but that Hauptmann knew all along exactly what it was he was receiving.
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Post by Joe on Aug 26, 2019 8:31:42 GMT -5
Just a very important question on Nosovitsky that needs more attention than it has been receiving here: Was Nosovitsky "Cemetery John"? Why or why not? I recall he had an alibi and was not in the state of New Jersey on March 1, 1932, but not sure if that also included the Bronx on the nights of March 12 and April 2, 1932.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 10:03:04 GMT -5
Amy, that picture of a younger Nosovitsky in a ship's service hat is also in a collection of FBI Files (Hoover Official and Confidential Files, Folder 120, Parts A and B) I requested from Marquette University in 2004. Thanks so much for an official source for the identification of that Nosovitsky picture. This is important info to have. It seems you have been doing some serious research on J.J. Nosovitsky. Awesome!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 10:23:01 GMT -5
I believe there is also strong evidence to suggest Fisch was involved within the money laundering operation, and that he left his share of the ransom payment gold certificates with Hauptmann as witnessed by Kloppenburg, but that Hauptmann knew all along exactly what it was he was receiving. I am very interested in Fisch and have been looking at all the documentation I can locate on him at the archives. In your theory above, if Fisch is laundering ransom money, is he doing this for Hauptmann or for himself since you say that Fisch left his share of the ransom money with Hauptmann? I guess what I am asking is, do you see Fisch involved in the extortion since he has a share of the money to leave with Hauptmann?
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Post by Joe on Aug 26, 2019 10:23:57 GMT -5
Amy, that picture of a younger Nosovitsky in a ship's service hat is also in a collection of FBI Files (Hoover Official and Confidential Files, Folder 120, Parts A and B) I requested from Marquette University in 2004. Thanks so much for an official source for the identification of that Nosovitsky picture. This is important info to have. It seems you have been doing some serious research on J.J. Nosovitsky. Awesome! Amy, I've done very little research on Nosovitsky in the past ten years, and I've learned a lot about him from all of the Ancestry, census and military records that have been posted on this site by Michael and others. I think the two hundred or so pages on Nosovitsky from the Hoover collection and moreover his documented connection to JEH on a professional and personal level, will help towards tying any loose threads together relative to establishing a potential connection with this case and how he may well have been afforded some grace, and even protection towards potential prosecution by the Director of the FBI. I've emailed Ronelle to ask whether she can add the collection as a resource to her site. Michael, I believe I may have sent you a pdf of the above Nosvitsky information, but can't recall for sure. If I did, can you upload it as a resource to your site? If you don't have it, I'd be happy to send it along.
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Post by Joe on Aug 26, 2019 10:58:38 GMT -5
I believe there is also strong evidence to suggest Fisch was involved within the money laundering operation, and that he left his share of the ransom payment gold certificates with Hauptmann as witnessed by Kloppenburg, but that Hauptmann knew all along exactly what it was he was receiving. I am very interested in Fisch and have been looking at all the documentation I can locate on him at the archives. In your theory above, if Fisch is laundering ransom money, is he doing this for Hauptmann or for himself since you say that Fisch left his share of the ransom money with Hauptmann? I guess what I am asking is, do you see Fisch involved in the extortion since he has a share of the money to leave with Hauptmann? I've never seen anything that concludes Fisch and Hauptmann knew each other at the time of the extortion. It was certainly in Hauptmann's best interests to assert he knew him before the NJSP-claimed time frame of August 1932, as the earlier date of March 1932 then allowed him to place the ransom payment with the deceased Fisch. Of course, Hauptmann might also have made the connection socially before the later date, particularly through an extended group of revelers at City Island and Hunter's Island, before their formal introduction through Gerta Henkel. Given that Hauptmann and Fisch were business partners on record for well over a year before Fisch left for Germany, I find it almost unfathomable that they were both not intimately connected within the laundering of Lindbergh ransom money which Hauptmann would have come into on April 2, 1932, as well as any claims of theft identity at the hands of Fisch. Fisch was the perfect partner candidate in terms of doing the bulk of the dirty back-alley work, as exemplified by the accounts of him mentioned by name or someone who matched his description attempting to pass money and which appeared to be of questionable origin. And remember, everything this pair did together in stocks or furs was supposed to be split right down the middle, so I don't see why that would have precluded money laundering. I also believe Fisch could have been involved in the extortion and that there is something very telling within Robert Riehl's account of the younger man in light clothing on top of one of the 14 foot stone columns at Woodlawn Cemetery, which essentially matches his description. Perhaps as well, there is some truth to the report of Hauptmann's claim that Fisch was aware of his illegal alien status in America, and that "a few hundred dollars" would take care of it. In a way, I think they both had each over a barrel and were truly partners in crime.
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Post by hurtelable on Aug 26, 2019 11:00:53 GMT -5
For those who consider Nosovitsky as a person of interest in the LKC, I wanted to post a picture I found recently at the archives. The picture was listed as an unidentified person but I was immediately struck by how much it made me think of J.J. Nosovitsky, only he was younger in this picture. His attire reminded me that back in the early 1920's, Noso traveled/sailed under the alias of Dr. John/Joseph Anderson. I am not saying this is a picture of Nosovitsky but I do wonder if it might be. imgur.com/nMgbWrwHere is an archive picture of a more mature Nosovitsky. imgur.com/z9yWchLNosovitsky possessed two very striking physical features that could have been useful identifiers, both of which would be highly unlikely to be altered by medical intervention in his time: he had (1) protruding ear lobes and (2) s huge protuberant nose. In addition, another photo of Noso published in Behn's book, "Lindbergh: The Crime", reveals thumb and index finger abnormalities, seen when posed holding what seems to be a spherical metallic object. Just wondering about any possible connection to the fleshy hand tumor Condon described Cemetery John to have.
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Post by Joe on Aug 26, 2019 11:31:47 GMT -5
For those who consider Nosovitsky as a person of interest in the LKC, I wanted to post a picture I found recently at the archives. The picture was listed as an unidentified person but I was immediately struck by how much it made me think of J.J. Nosovitsky, only he was younger in this picture. His attire reminded me that back in the early 1920's, Noso traveled/sailed under the alias of Dr. John/Joseph Anderson. I am not saying this is a picture of Nosovitsky but I do wonder if it might be. imgur.com/nMgbWrwHere is an archive picture of a more mature Nosovitsky. imgur.com/z9yWchLNosovitsky possessed two very striking physical features that could have been useful identifiers, both of which would be highly unlikely to be altered by medical intervention in his time: he had (1) protruding ear lobes and (2) s huge protuberant nose. In addition, another photo of Noso published in Behn's book, "Lindbergh: The Crime", reveals thumb and index finger abnormalities, seen when posed holding what seems to be a spherical metallic object. Just wondering about any possible connection to the fleshy hand tumor Condon described Cemetery John to have. I believe there's some confusion about what specific condition Condon was referring to in relation to the "fleshy lump" feature exhibited by CJ at Woodlawn Cemetery. He also called it a "mutton chop" development along the base of the thumb on the inside of the hand. He was referring to a high development of the Thenar Eminence muscle group illustrated here, and which is a trademark of carpenters, plumbers and other trades, rock climbers, drummers, etc. The only reason it might be called an abnormality is that you don't find it highly developed in the average person. Condon would have been able to detect this condition readily during his handshake with CJ. Thenar Eminence Etymology: Gk, thenar, palm of the hand; L, eminentia, projection a raised fleshy area on the palm of the hand near the base of the thumb. Attachment Deleted
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 18:18:36 GMT -5
I think the two hundred or so pages on Nosovitsky from the Hoover collection and moreover his documented connection to JEH on a professional and personal level, will help towards tying any loose threads together relative to establishing a potential connection with this case and how he may well have been afforded some grace, and even protection towards potential prosecution by the Director of the FBI. I've emailed Ronelle to ask whether she can add the collection as a resource to her site. I would love to read through that FBI collection on Nosovitsky. Interesting thought that Noso might have been protected from prosecution by Hoover. Do you really think Hoover would have done that if he really thought Noso was involved in the LKC and why would he do that?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 18:25:38 GMT -5
I've never seen anything that concludes Fisch and Hauptmann knew each other at the time of the extortion. At this point, I have not seen anything conclusive, just someone who thought there was a resemblance to Hauptmann of a man who was with Fisch while he was connected to the Knickerbocker Pie Company. A resemblance is not a positive ID, however. I am still looking to see if there is anything else available on this.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 18:28:31 GMT -5
Nosovitsky possessed two very striking physical features that could have been useful identifiers, both of which would be highly unlikely to be altered by medical intervention in his time: he had (1) protruding ear lobes and (2) s huge protuberant nose. What do you mean by protruding ear lobes? I don't think I see them in the pictures I posted. Can you please clarify?
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Post by Michael on Aug 27, 2019 7:06:52 GMT -5
Michael, I believe I may have sent you a pdf of the above Nosvitsky information, but can't recall for sure. If I did, can you upload it as a resource to your site? If you don't have it, I'd be happy to send it along. You only sent me hard copies. This had to be about 15 years ago! Unfortunately I don't have a .pdf of that material.
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