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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 14:23:03 GMT -5
I have noted when major figures in my conspiracy theory pop-up in rural New Jersey during and after kidnap-time. James Warburg attends a conference in Newark & visits Hopatcong, N.J. Albert Einstein is floating around Princeton in 1931, 1932, 1933 and after. An obituary last week of a 108 year old woman, Leah Landau tells us she lived on "a farm/boarding house/hotel that her parents ran in rural New Jersey...seeing Albert Einstein at a nearby hotel." What's the most famous man in the world doing at a hotel in rural New Jersey during the early 1930s? Vineland, N.J. was a safe house for Murder Inc. Any explanation of his whereabouts in rural New Jersey is suspicious & it's off-hand testimony of "little people" that fill in the gaps left by party-line following biographers. See my book "The Lindbergh Baby Kidnap Conspiracy."
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Post by romeo12 on Aug 27, 2014 16:56:56 GMT -5
don't understand your point. didn't Einstein live in Princeton? what so strange about it?
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Post by hurtelable on Aug 27, 2014 17:44:34 GMT -5
If you read a biography of Einstein, you will find that he did not settle in the United States permanently until 1933 (?), which would be after the Lindbergh kidnapping case. BTW, it wouldn't be so unusual for an ordinary American to have met Einstein in a casual way once he came to Princeton. He wasn't a snob and he didn't have a team of bodyguards everywhere he went like today's celebrities do. I've personally met an American who did meet with Einstein.
To mention Einstein on a thread titled "Suspects Popping-up in rural New Jersey" borders on the absurd.
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Post by stella7 on Aug 27, 2014 19:54:58 GMT -5
Einstein was very accessible when he lived in Princeton. He shopped in my father-in-law's grocery store on Witherspoon St. regularly. I don't think it would be unusual to see him in the New Jersey countryside.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 11:30:27 GMT -5
Princeton IS NOT "RURAL" New Jersey, that's the point! Hurtelable, I have gathered 800 pages on Einstein linking him to the case (including FBI investigation - his secretary was "arrested" in Princeton and grilled by police when she "passed" a $20 bill - she said she got it from Einstein - they checked with Einstein & he said he got it from his wife's European bank. My theory is she passed a marked bill, but to accuse Einstein, whose sponsor was First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt would be TOO MUCH so they let it drop etc. The source of the story is Freeman Dyson who was with Einstein at Princeton, I talked to him about it. It is in one of his memoirs.) of which I used 137 pages in my book "The Lindbergh Baby Kidnap Conspiracy". The man I finger as the kidnapper, James Warburg often had Einstein over at his house, and his Uncle Felix Warburg was Einstein's best friend and sailing buddy putting Albert in intimate contact with the movers and shakers in the case. Take a glance at my book before using the word "absurd."
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Post by romeo12 on Aug 28, 2014 12:07:50 GMT -5
really allen?
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Post by jdanniel on Aug 28, 2014 14:43:18 GMT -5
For what it's worth--which might not be much:
I was born and raised in central New Jersey. Currently, I live three miles from Princeton. There's no way Princeton cannot be considered rural, even today. It's beautiful--the exact opposite of what people assume New Jersey is like, based solely on Newark.
Nassau Street has pretty much the same mom-and-pop stores that have been there for decades. When I was a child, we'd eat breakfast at PJ's Pancake House. I'm 54. It's still there. Go down Witherspoon Street and have a pizza at Conte's. It's still there.
There's a canal you can walk, jog, or bike down. A lake. Old houses on a stretch of road that has foliage that is lovely come Autumn.
Terhune Orchards has great apple cider, apple cider donuts, pies, and produce. It's small, the parking lot is very rocky (quite literally), and it's tough to find without a GPS, but it's worth the trip.
Yes, granted, this area has built up over the years, and yes, Princeton is on the edge of Route 1, which is a heavily trafficked highway with a lot of chain restaurants, malls, and such.
But Princeton itself hasn't changed all that much over the past century. Furthermore, Einstein is still, to this day, legendary in these parts, for being utterly unpretentious, accessible, and quite humorous. He was regarded like a typical eccentric but warm college professor.
By the way...if you're ever in Princeton, stop into Tortuga's Mexican Village. Great, authentic cuisine.
Highfields and Hopewell are not far from Princeton. The house is extremely difficult to find without specific instructions, a detailed map, or a GPS (which, of course, goes without saying didn't exist in 1932). I found my way there with the kind assistance of Mark Falzini almost ten years ago. That was in the middle of a sunny day. If someone were to go to Highfields at night, in 1932, without a dry run or assistance, I can't imagine finding it without being extraordinarily lucky.
Jd
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Post by romeo12 on Aug 28, 2014 15:07:25 GMT -5
I went on the historical tour a few years ago. went to the site of the restraunt called the balt, where a lot of people involved in the investigation of the Lindbergh kidnapping went.
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Post by hurtelable on Aug 28, 2014 17:09:21 GMT -5
To Allan:
No writer other than yourself has ever linked Einstein to any criminal activity. He had absolutely no interest in any get rich quick schemes, but concentrated his efforts on his scientific and humanitarian pursuits.
Einstein was in Europe, IIRC, at the time of the kidnapping and at the time of the ransom payment (as if he would need an alibi in any event). He did not arrive at Princeton permanently until 1933. If his secretary had once passed a ransom bill, I'm sure it was just an accident. There were naturally quite a number of innocent people who came into possession of ransom bills - from the time of the ransom payment in the Bronx to the time of Hauptmann's arrest - without knowing that they were, as the ransom money was circulated around the economy.
Now if you have a copy of an FBI report mentioning Einstein in connection with the LKC, please post the image if you can.
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Post by lightningjew on Aug 28, 2014 18:34:48 GMT -5
Oh now, I don't know here, people... The letter 'E' appears several times in both 'Hopewell' and 'Englewood', two places with deep and obvious connections to the crime; while an equal sign (=) looks suspiciously like two side rails of a ladder. Even more, 'M' is just one letter away from 'L' (for 'Lindbergh'!) and 'C' was the first letter of CAL Jr.'s name, who was just shy of his second birthday--my God... E = mc2... He literally spelled his guilt out! It's been staring us in the face all along...
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Post by babyinthecrib on Aug 28, 2014 21:07:19 GMT -5
I think Einstein was too smart to be involved (Wink), but I am interested in the Hopatcong angle. My Uncle Danny who worked for Frank Hague owned a home there for many years, I have a feeling that Hague himself owned the original house and just had it under my uncles name. I cant imagine a elevator operator owning two homes in the 1930's, our family was by no means wealthy!
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Post by hurtelable on Aug 28, 2014 22:18:02 GMT -5
Appreciate your satirical sense of humor, lightningjew.
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Post by lightningjew on Aug 28, 2014 22:31:14 GMT -5
Appreciate it back. Most of the commentators here are so smart and thoughtful, and then, from time to time, we get this spammy Daddy-Warbucks-Did-It ridiculousness. So annoying...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 11:19:55 GMT -5
Einstein left the USA two days after the kidnapping making the only celebrity soundbite on the case at the dock before sailing. He was with Abraham Flexner at the time of the crime who was pitching "Princeton" to him, while Lindbergh was kept late at the Rockefeller Institute with its boss Simon Flexner, his brother, at the time of the crime - so Einstein is with the brother of the man Lindbergh was with at the time of the crime. Einstein money-laundered his Nobel Award Prize so that he wouldn't have to give it all to his wife in the divorce settlement - I got this from a 96 year old Physicist who was with him at his house when he admitted it to him and European money-laundering is an important aspect to the crime. Theremon the scientist had a mock-up of the Lindbergh Baby's room in his Lab where he experimented on a protection device which won 1st prize in Radio News July 1932 contest. Einstein used this Lab before, during & after the crime. The more you look the more you find (800 pages) most of which information is off the beaten path so sensitive Einstein-worshippers won't be upset. When asked what he would have liked to be if he wasn't a scientist Einstein said "Mob Boss - Casino Head." I still say Princeton is NOT rural New Jersey & Einstein wouldn't be staying at a hotel there or near there once he was living there, and when he was scouting the place Flexner would have provided living accomodations.
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Post by lightningjew on Aug 29, 2014 13:54:39 GMT -5
Well, I'm sold! A passing remark (which couldn't possibly have been tongue-in-cheek) about being a gangster, living in the same state as the crime, going on a trip not long after... Yeah, slam-dunk. And, of course, ALBERT FREAKING EINSTEIN had all the motive in the world to kidnap the Lindbergh Baby. Maybe if we play with these little tidbits some more, we can get him framed for the JFK Assassination while we're at it...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 14:53:53 GMT -5
I really don't think kidnapping was a high priority item on Einstein's to do list. Not everyone who knew James Warburg was attached to the Lindbergh case just because they knew Warburg. Good gosh, I don't even think Warburg was involved with the LKC. Babyinthecrib mentions a Hopatcong angle. I don't recall hearing anything about that. She does mention Frank Hague which reminded me of a newspaper article I read the other day. In the article it mentions that Lindbergh wanted to form a committee to work on future negotiations in the case. This is after the April 2nd ransom was paid but Charlie was still missing. Among the persons mentioned as possibly being on this committe is Frank Hague. I don't know if this ties in with what Babyinthecrib mentioned in her post or if she has found anything on this in her research. Here is the news article: news.google.com/newspapers?id=MpIjAAAAIBAJ&sjid=masFAAAAIBAJ&pg=2284%2C3167230It seems that Lindbergh overlooked Albert Einstein for this committee. I wonder if Einstein was offended! Michael, did you ever come across anything about Lindbergh wanting to put together such a committee? Would this have been something he felt he needed because he was going to be out-to-sea with John Hughes Curtis looking for Charlie?
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Post by deedee1963 on Aug 29, 2014 23:36:40 GMT -5
Oh now, I don't know here, people... The letter 'E' appears several times in both 'Hopewell' and 'Englewood', two places with deep and obvious connections to the crime; while an equal sign (=) looks suspiciously like two side rails of a ladder. Even more, 'M' is just one letter away from 'L' (for 'Lindbergh'!) and 'C' was the first letter of CAL Jr.'s name, who was just shy of his second birthday--my God... E = mc2... He literally spelled his guilt out! It's been staring us in the face all along... Lightning, I think you nailed it! And don't forget what else starts with E. ELEANOR. As in Eleanor Roosevelt! Case solved. We can all go home now I guess. Alan, why would Einstein want to kidnap the Lindbergh baby ? Really ? WHY?
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Post by lightningjew on Aug 30, 2014 2:49:00 GMT -5
And I don't see how we can ignore the glaring, inescapable and utterly damning fact that both Einstein and Hauptmann, the man ultimately charged with the crime, were natives of the same country. Coincidence? Impossible... And as for Eleanor Roosevelt, not only does the 'E' in her name obviously link her with 'E'instein, his 'E'=mc2 code, and 'E'nglewood (the Lindberghs' sometime home) but her family originated on the same continent as Einstein and Hauptmann! The web just leads everywhere, doesn't it?
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Post by Michael on Aug 30, 2014 8:46:38 GMT -5
Michael, did you ever come across anything about Lindbergh wanting to put together such a committee? Would this have been something he felt he needed because he was going to be out-to-sea with John Hughes Curtis looking for Charlie? I never did Amy. Hard to know if this was ever really discussed or just a "filler" type story.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2014 9:51:34 GMT -5
Thanks Michael. If you haven't come across such a committee then it probably is just "filler" material for that story.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 11:30:22 GMT -5
"The Einstein File" has an FBI informant 1951 William Henry writing "Einstein Framed Hauptmann. Einstein Kidnapped Lindbergh's baby!" This accusation made while Einstein was still alive. There's political & racial reasons why Einstein would be in on it. Upton Sinclair's 1930 book "Mental Radio" has the ONLY printed attack on Lindbergh up to that time "Lindbergh is being used by the Establishment to take people's minds' off issues of social justice etc." Einstein wrote the Preface to that book saying everything in the book is true etc. Felix Warburg funded Theremon's Lab that had the mock-up of the Lindbergh Baby's room with crib & Einstein used the lab. Einstein left the USA on the "getaway" ship a day after the snatch. Lindy's father Jew-baited Paul Warburg at 1913 federal reserve Chairman Hearings. He's a pro-Nazi, anti-Semitic threat to Socialist-revolutionary, Zionist Albert Einstein & his clique - so questions of "Why would Einstein..etc." are trivial and ill-informed.
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Post by lightningjew on Sept 2, 2014 19:10:34 GMT -5
"Trivial and ill-informed"... Took the words right out of my mouth.
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Post by deedee1963 on Sept 4, 2014 3:32:53 GMT -5
"Trivial and ill-informed"... Took the words right out of my mouth. LOL
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Post by romeo12 on Sept 4, 2014 9:27:17 GMT -5
einstein is a new one, even he isn't safe
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2014 10:44:30 GMT -5
Here you have an extraordinary crime - real shock & awe - and look how your minds' rebel at extraordinary people and circumstances acting within the context of that crime. No wonder how people can get away with murder.
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Post by lightningjew on Sept 5, 2014 14:36:20 GMT -5
"No wonder how people can get away with murder..." My God, the grammar... And I don't think anyone's mind is "rebelling" against anything here. For me at least, it's more irritation at the sheer crackpotted nonsense people try to peddle from time to time.
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Post by deedee1963 on Sept 5, 2014 15:09:49 GMT -5
einstein is a new one, even he isn't safe B Exactly, Steve. Even the Presidents wife wasn't off limits. And is it my imagination or do your theories always center around someone who is Jewish, Alan? Because I thought I detected anti Semitism in some of your posts.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2014 10:06:30 GMT -5
Since Lindbergh's Congressman father and Lindbergh himself held anti-Semitic views and opinions - Lindbergh snubbed NYC Jews at his flight celebration etc. it is only natural that they saw him as a political and existential threat, so that any foul play directed at him had a likelihood of Jews being behind it.
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Post by lightningjew on Sept 6, 2014 11:15:50 GMT -5
"Let him rave that men shall know him mad..."
--Ramses II (Yul Brynner) The Ten Commandments, 1956
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Post by Chris on Sept 7, 2014 17:15:36 GMT -5
If we could glean one interesting thing from all this non-sense, it would be that bills from the kidnapping were being passed in Princeton. I think it is sheer coincidence that it was Einstein's secretary who passed the bill.
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