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Post by babyinthecrib on May 3, 2013 20:10:36 GMT -5
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Post by Michael on May 4, 2013 14:21:53 GMT -5
Barbara,
This might not be relevant but there was a Harry Mack, from Hartford, who is in the FBI files concerning the Purple Gang and Leavenworth angle of this case.
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Post by babyinthecrib on May 4, 2013 17:42:13 GMT -5
Thanks Mike, I'll check it out!
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Post by babyinthecrib on May 4, 2013 18:17:10 GMT -5
Hey Mike, you dont happen to have a DOB? The Edward Mack I mentioned has an Uncle named Harry and his Dads middle name is Harry.
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Post by Michael on May 5, 2013 20:27:35 GMT -5
I searched for the DOB but didn't come up with it in any of the documentation that I have. Here is an FBI Document from SAC Vetterli. You'll notice it gives an alias for Mack as "Robert Baird." I recall in the FBI Summary it says Baird was Mack's alias (the other way around). This could be something you are encountering in your search as well - many people using an alias back then. It's caused me fits over the years. You have to learn the variations of spellings, nicknames, and the various "AKA"s of the individuals you seek info on.... By the way, I have linked up a copy of the FBI Summary in our Member's Section:
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Post by babyinthecrib on May 5, 2013 22:22:10 GMT -5
Thanks Mike, I really need to check this because not only is the name Mack there, I have recently came across the name Baird. I need to check thru my paperwork to locate it
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Post by Aimee on May 6, 2013 16:07:02 GMT -5
Dad as a toddler in the fields. Does anyone know where this is?
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Post by Aimee on May 6, 2013 16:08:03 GMT -5
Dad as a young boy, playing Cowboy.
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Post by Aimee on May 8, 2013 12:23:35 GMT -5
Hello Everyone: A sample has been selected and testing is once again underway. My (aunt's) sample is also being tested. I will keep you posted on any progress we make. Keep your thoughts and ideas coming! Thanks, A.
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Post by Aimee on May 11, 2013 9:09:44 GMT -5
There are a couple of thoughts that I want to say, before any DNA anything comes back to me. My father was a very smart and strong willed person, with a great sense of humor. He was raised in poverty, acting as the head of his family due to his father's absence. He was reborn when he met and married my mom on June 22, 1952 and entered the Navy. His children were everything to him and I wish I could have shared this Discussion Board with him. Thank you. A.
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Post by Aimee on May 14, 2013 11:11:26 GMT -5
The DNA results came back as half siblings or cousins. It is my belief that they were actually cousins. I will continue to monitor this Discussion Board and will one day, perhaps, find the physical link to prove the identity of my dad as being Charles Jr.. Thank you all very much. A.
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Post by kdwv8 on May 29, 2013 19:35:11 GMT -5
Michael, I have read a theory of Charlie being killed by means of a "jewish ritual murder". What is your thoughts on this? Sorry if this theory is posted somewhere else.
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Post by Michael on May 30, 2013 5:44:02 GMT -5
I stumbled onto this theory in my early days of research while combing through the Hoffman Collection. (There's also something about this on Ronelle's Site I believe). There is and never was such a thing. It was an invention created by people who hated the Jews to inflame sentiment towards them. There was a lot of it back then - the letters I have read written directly to the Governor are completely outrages. Not just about Jews but about any group. The Italians, for example, took a beating too. But what you had, I think, were these certain groups who just hated people for whatever reasons and would jump at any chance to attach blame to them. This being a sensational case gave them that opportunity. I've looked into this thinking that it was a possible "set-up," that is, dispose of the body to make it fall in line with what was accepted as a "jewish ritual murder." I don't see anything to suggest this either. If there was of course it would have been evidence Jews had nothing to do with it. For anyone who might be interested, Bloomsburg University has copies of the "Radical Political Newsletters" from their Andruss Library Special Collections digitized here: People sent copies of the American Bulletin to the Governor all the time and I stumbled onto this website when researching that Organization. Here is one Newsletter on this subject:
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2013 16:36:06 GMT -5
The Jewish Ritual Murder issue does seem to have a place in the case. My "The Lindbergh Baby Kidnap Conspiracy" book that accuses James Warburg has a whole section highlighting these interesting facts: 1- Aby Warburg, James' uncle is the WORLD EXPERT ON RITUAL MURDER/SACRIFICE - his last papers focused on this aspect of culture. 2- A Greenwich bakery was where the 1st marked bill was passed. 3- The assassination of the Jewish mobster suspect in the case Abe Wagner in St. Paul Minnesota occurred underneath a giant bread sign. There are other curious tie-in's some quite serious but I can't remember them offhand. Buy the book.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2013 16:42:45 GMT -5
The Jewish Ritual Murder aspect has a place in the discussion. My book "The Lindbergh Baby Kidnap Conspiracy" which accuses James Warburg notes the following:1- Aby Warburg, James' uncle is the world expert on ritual murder/sacrifice as part of culture. His last papers were devoted to the subject. 2- A Greenwich Conn. "bakery" was where the 1st marked ransom bill was passed. 3- Jewish mob suspect in the case Abe wagner was murdered in St. Paul, Minn. under a giant "bread" advertisement. The book has many more tie-in's. Buy it.
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Post by Aimee on Jun 1, 2013 8:43:17 GMT -5
What ever happened to the "Providence Gang" from 1928? ...Also Any information on Max Boyer, the Lawyer or Judge for the NJ Police Department during the early 30's??
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Post by Michael on Jun 3, 2013 21:05:23 GMT -5
So far I am at a loss with these items. I still have my ear to the wall and if I find something I will most definitely share it with you. Until then - hopefully someone else finds something to help you out.
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Post by Aimee on Jun 15, 2013 19:19:32 GMT -5
Again..I am unclear as to the fact that who ever took the baby out of the crib did not know about the safety pins attached to the sheets or bedding?? This would mean that who ever took the baby out of the crib did not normally do that particular task. Right?
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Post by Michael on Jun 16, 2013 16:42:21 GMT -5
Again..I am unclear as to the fact that who ever took the baby out of the crib did not know about the safety pins attached to the sheets or bedding?? This would mean that who ever took the baby out of the crib did not normally do that particular task. Right? Possibly. It could also mean that who ever took him was in a hurry, or they wanted to make it "look" like they were or look like they were somebody else.
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Post by Aimee on Jul 1, 2013 14:21:33 GMT -5
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Post by Aimee on Jul 10, 2013 9:43:31 GMT -5
I have discovered that my father had five birth certificates. Each certificate was changed and was once again updated in 1951, by Julian A. Morrow, the Registrar of Vital Statistics in Connecticut. This was the most important birth certificate because my dad needed this in order to enter the Navy. The Morrows and the Lindberghs all had family connections in Connecticut. Attachments:Julian A. Morrow.pdf (53.86 KB)
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Post by Aimee on Jul 10, 2013 9:45:54 GMT -5
The New Jersey Courts as well as the Vermont Courts would not allow me to find out the truth.
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Post by Aimee on Jul 19, 2013 21:48:57 GMT -5
Birth Certificate #5 for my dad. This one was signed by Registrar Julian A. Morrow...from Connecticut, in 1951 Attachments:Julian A. Morrow.pdf (53.86 KB)
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Post by Aimee on Jul 23, 2013 10:56:08 GMT -5
The is no listing of Julian Morrow anywhere. How could a Registrar of Connecticut not be on a list somewhere???
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Post by Aimee on Jul 25, 2013 11:08:05 GMT -5
My dad's "indelible or permanent marks" listed on his Navy Record...Ant: Left Bicep VS, Left Instep S1/2.
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Post by Aimee on Jul 26, 2013 18:51:18 GMT -5
Look at my dad's left toes in this photo.. click a couple of times to enlarge.
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Post by Aimee on Jul 26, 2013 18:54:27 GMT -5
This is a photo of Charlie's Jr. Take a look at his left toes..it looks like my dad's foot!! Double click to get a better look, What do you think?? Attachments:
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Post by Aimee on Jul 26, 2013 19:02:32 GMT -5
They tanned up my dad as a child. As an adult, he couldn't get enough sun. Attachments:
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Post by Aimee on Jul 26, 2013 20:44:51 GMT -5
The "horizontal curl" was very apparent..even as an adult. This is a photo of my dad in the Navy.
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Post by Aimee on Jul 28, 2013 0:37:16 GMT -5
I will assume you know which one was my dad. (This photo will be revise with a scanned image within a few days.) Attachments:
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