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Post by kevkon on Jul 15, 2009 17:05:55 GMT -5
Yes, but why then was there an absence of excavated/disturbed soil? Was there not also leaf clutter under the body? I'm just trying to visualize the exact steps required to " scoop out" a space ( for what reason?), remove the body ( again why?) and place it there. What abot footprints and disturbed vegetation?
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Post by Michael on Jul 15, 2009 17:44:33 GMT -5
Before I verify what I think I remember - what do you expect would prove what? We don't know exactly when the child was moved here. It could have been May 1st, or April 3rd. Did it rain or snow between those dates and May 12th? Wouldn't this or other variables erase the signs you might be looking for? Addi tonally, did Allen's footprints survive? Did the Reporters contaminate the scene? Was the shovel a "plant?" Was the newspaper article a "plant" and if so by whom? Were there leaves on top of the body? Do leaves fall in the spring? Do animals eat only part of the body? ...some of the organs?
I am asking to see what you might expect if one thing were to mean another.
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Post by kevkon on Jul 15, 2009 21:35:41 GMT -5
Michael, I would definately expect there to be some evidence of digging. I would not expect to find a relatively undisturbed site. Take a single shovelful of soil from a similar area and look at the amount of distubance created. Rain/sleet/ snow won't completely erase it/
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Post by rick3 on Jul 19, 2009 17:25:55 GMT -5
BLOOD MONEY? What I am interested in, Rick, is the existence of forensic evidence that the body was placed by someone in that spot. I'm sorry but Jones is basically worthless. What about your statement about the decomposition, is that an opinion or is it a fact? Did Fisch have a car and a license? Let's try to put some closure on this. It seems like it's possible. I would also like to address the claim that the Jones Letter is basically worthless. During Watergate and Deep Throat--Woodward and Burnstein were required to go search out a second source as confirmation of whatever Deep Throat alledged. In the Jones letter--it is stated that everyone must want to know whos blood was on the ransom money? Oh sure, what blood? Jones claims BRH told him Condon cut his finger on the money wrappings/ first time this is revealed. But both Edward Dean Sullivan (The Snatch Racket) and Major Frank Pease mention it earlier than 1956: - "In the discussion of the accomplice angel there is a particularly interesting detail regarding blood on the ransom money. One of every 6 bills of the ransom money passed before the arrest of BRH was lightly stained with reddish-brown stains.
Anaylysis showed the stains to be blood. The authorities know of but one instance in theis epoch-making crime in which blood is spilled. And that blood had dried long before the golden flow had come into hauptmanns hands. It is entirely possible that other violent incidents followed soon after the abduction and murder of the baby. This might explain the presence of so much of the ransom money in BRH's hands." Sullivan-Who Helped Hauptmann? p21(May 1935)--thanks to Joe.
- "Whose blood stained one out of every 3 bills of the Lindbergh ransom money unearthed from BRH's garage"? Did Hauptmann bury only the blood stained bills? " The Hole in the Hauptmann Case--pg 13. December 1935/ thanks to Sue.
- If Jones can know this single obscure fact --then other parts of his letter might hold some credibility as well/ right?
- So why was the blood on the ransom money buried? Why didnt JFC just admit it was his in the first place? Why was it obscured by AG Wilintz?
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Post by Michael on Feb 11, 2010 20:05:37 GMT -5
New article on Paul Husted:
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Post by kevkon on Feb 12, 2010 8:36:43 GMT -5
Raising Arizona
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Post by wolf2 on Feb 13, 2010 14:31:44 GMT -5
i met kenneth kerwin a few times. one lindbergh baby to talk to is one to many in my lifetime. i try to ignore them now
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2016 12:13:31 GMT -5
Michael, I came across this article in the March 7, 1932 issue of the Chicago Tribune. I was wondering if you had ever come across this offer by Walter Lafferty. Like Condon, this man is trying to inject himself into the Lindbergh case. Was Lindbergh aware of the efforts of this man? Did the authorities check out Mr. Lafferty? Apparently Lafferty made an announcement offering $50,000 and legal assistance to the kidnappers. He also asked the kidnapper to remember how the Lindberghs risked their lives helping the Chinese flood victims in 1931. Not sure why this man brings that up. This announcement happens the day before Condon's letter appears in the BHN. Friend of Lindys father offers 50000 reward.bmp (141.31 KB)
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Post by Michael on Apr 9, 2016 17:57:31 GMT -5
Like your article says he was formerly a colleague of Lindbegh's father when they were both members of Congress and knew Lindbergh since he was a child. I believe I have a letter he wrote somewhere but I haven't been able to find it for you (it might not be "William" Lafferty though and I would need to find it in order to verify). I do have some reference to his offer to the Kidnappers where he calls them "guardians" of the baby and that he is their "friend" only if they are treating the baby "kindly" offering up the 50K as a "reward" for his return to him. There was a lot of this type of thing going on at the time, for example, only the day before a Warden by the name of Lawes also offered to act as a go-between/intermediary (see NYT - March 7, 1932, page 10). Anyway, if the Police followed up on Lafferty I don't have anything to show for it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2016 18:38:18 GMT -5
Like your article says he was formerly a colleague of Lindbegh's father when they were both members of Congress and knew Lindbergh since he was a child. I believe I have a letter he wrote somewhere but I haven't been able to find it for you (it might not be "William" Lafferty though and I would need to find it in order to verify). I do have some reference to his offer to the Kidnappers where he calls them "guardians" of the baby and that he is their "friend" only if they are treating the baby "kindly" offering up the 50K as a "reward" for his return to him. There was a lot of this type of thing going on at the time, for example, only the day before a Warden by the name of Lawes also offered to act as a go-between/intermediary ( see NYT - March 7, 1932, page 10). Anyway, if the Police followed up on Lafferty I don't have anything to show for it. I appreciate your comments on this. No need to search for a letter. You read so many things in the newspapers. Of course, this did catch my attention and since I never read about this man and his offer anywhere before I wanted to ask you about it. Thanks.
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