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Post by lightningjew on May 26, 2015 18:22:08 GMT -5
So, Hauptmann's landlady overheard him in the apartment on the night of March 1? Michael, to your mind, does this put Hauptmann in the Bronx that night (that is, not in Hopewell)?
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Post by Michael on May 27, 2015 5:35:41 GMT -5
So, Hauptmann's landlady overheard him in the apartment on the night of March 1? Michael, to your mind, does this put Hauptmann in the Bronx that night (that is, not in Hopewell)? For me it doesn't "work like that." It's definitely something to consider. Not just along these lines but in the overall scheme of things. It "proves" she's saying things that aren't making it into reports. I've considered that possibly they don't want something that hurts their case so hearing he was home on March 1st not only isn't helpful, it's something a Defense Attorney could get their hands on and make life miserable for the Prosecution. Same for the possibility she handed over money she claimed Hauptmann paid his rent with. If she did, and the money wasn't ransom, it doesn't assist and could be turned around on them concerning the date of the supposed Fisch Story. Now when I say it doesn't "work like that," it's because of what I've learned over the years while doing all of this Archival Research. I think the original mind-set for anyone first walking into the Archives is to find a "smoking-gun." Let me tell you that if you are looking for that you will find one in every file. Seriously. It's why you have Zorn's book out there, and why someone wandering into an Archive thinks a rental application suddenly represents a place for Hauptmann to hide the baby. Examples of this stuff are all over the place. For example, there are thousands of letters from people overhearing what Zorn's father did - but from different people. And there are thousands of receipts, applications, bills, and advertisements too. I know that when an item/receipt was found among Hauptmann's things it was investigated. Off the top of my head there was one belonging to someone else. Without the Report we could make anything we'd like out of it. But the investigation tracked down it's owner. The idea that Police would find a rental application then "forget" about it is beyond absurd. One must sift through everything, then attempt to add to, or subtract from ALL from other evidence. It takes years to do and cannot possibly be done in the 10 seconds it takes to stumble onto a document. If an immediate conclusion is drawn, then one can also, very easily, find other things to surround it with to make it appear real - but they most definitely must ignore other things that are, most often then not - legitimate. So what I see are others not taking the proper amount of time, or those that have invested time not wanting to let go of something because they don't want that time "wasted." And so, in short, it's the totality of many things that are required for me to come to a conclusion. However, I would never shrug off something until it's totally resolved by other real facts.
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Post by Michael on May 31, 2015 7:50:43 GMT -5
Imagine going to the Archives and seeing thousands upon thousands of letters like these and NONE of them even mention Zorn's "Suspect." Not even once - anywhere:
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2015 14:18:03 GMT -5
Funny you should mention Zorn's book, because I was just going over something yesterday that made me recall Zorn's book. It seems that the trading stamps angle is not new to the Lindbergh case. In Zorn's book, his father trades stamps with John Knoll. Because of this relationship Mr. Zorn is an "ear-witness" to the name "Bruno".
In Joyce Milton's book, Loss of Eden, page 307, she talks about Hauptmann's entry into America. She states that on his 3rd try an engine stoker who stumbled upon Hauptmann's hiding place in the coal bunker, was also thinking about jumping ship when the boat docked in New York. He offered to help Hauptmann sneak ashore. The stoker had an address for a German family he could go to once he left the ship. This stoker takes Hauptmann with him to the home of Jacob Uhland. Uhland was willing to help the engine stoker but wanted nothing to do with Hauptmann. So Hauptmann was sitting in the Uhland livingroom wondering what he was going to do next when 18 year old Freddy Aldinger drops by to trade some stamps with Mr. Uhland!! So Freddy not only hears Bruno, he talks with him and brings him home to stay at his house!!
So, it makes me wonder why the Aldingers never wrote a book on their experiences with Hauptmann.
Michael, did LE ever interview Jacob Uhland?
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Post by Michael on May 31, 2015 15:29:54 GMT -5
Michael, did LE ever interview Jacob Uhland? It took them quite a while to track him down but were eventually able to find and interview him: Attachment Deleted
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2015 23:48:25 GMT -5
Thanks, Michael for the report. Uhland mentions a Mrs. Karsten. I wonder if this might be Mrs. Kirsten, Gerta Henkel's mother? If so, just maybe the Henkels knew Hauptmann before they were admitting to.
Mr. Uhland says the man Hauptmann met on the ship was actually a machinist. That is interesting. I recall reading that testing done on some of the recovered ransom money had traces of material that suggested it was handled by a machinist or carpenter. Did LE ever find this machinist?
Is it possible to post the second page of this report? We are left in the middle of a sentence! Thanks.
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Post by Michael on Jun 2, 2015 10:50:30 GMT -5
I recall reading that testing done on some of the recovered ransom money had traces of material that suggested it was handled by a machinist or carpenter. Did LE ever find this machinist? Is it possible to post the second page of this report? We are left in the middle of a sentence! Thanks. That was one theory but there were others... Here is the 2nd page:
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 13:09:43 GMT -5
Thanks, Michael for posting the second page.
When you say "there were others..." are you talking theories or people? I have no clue who George Bieber is. Is George one of those people or theories??
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Post by feathers on Sept 11, 2015 18:54:49 GMT -5
Does anybody have reliable information as to when Fisch started living at the Kohl rooming house at 149 East 127th Street? I have seen a lot of contradictory information on this in the newspapers and books.
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Post by Michael on Sept 11, 2015 20:46:28 GMT -5
Does anybody have reliable information as to when Fisch started living at the Kohl rooming house at 149 East 127th Street? I have seen a lot of contradictory information on this in the newspapers and books. Selma Kohl told Prosecutor Peacock that Fisch came to live at her Boarding House " in the Spring, 1932." And that he left on " 6th of December, 1933."
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Post by feathers on Sept 11, 2015 21:01:05 GMT -5
Thanks Michael! Much appreciated!
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