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Post by lightningjew on Jan 24, 2018 14:04:16 GMT -5
I’m going to guess he went with... B. I mean, just shooting in the dark here...
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Post by jack7 on Jan 24, 2018 14:56:14 GMT -5
I'll say B too.
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Post by rebekah on Jan 24, 2018 17:31:09 GMT -5
B. I'm reminded of his advocacy at the airing of the verdict while Dwight Morrow's biographer sat listening. He went over and beyond to convince everyone in the room that Hauptmann was the guy. Anne reportedly said, "turn it off", speaking of the radio. Maybe she was directing her comment to her husband.
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Post by mufti on Jan 26, 2018 4:30:13 GMT -5
I think lindbergh did not care about anything but getting the child back if he were alive but would probably choose B.
My choice would depend on how much chance I thought there was of getting more people convicted. A full confession could well be made up and implicate no one new or maybe even a false suspect he had a grudge against so probably I would choose B.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 9:37:17 GMT -5
I am going to say B also. Lindbergh helped to protect these "kidnappers" from apprehension. He would have no problem letting Hauptmann take the fall alone. This way the case starts and ends with Hauptmann. No more looking and investigating. Lindbergh would have preferred an end once and for all concerning this crime. He got his wish.
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Post by Red Herring 15 on Aug 29, 2019 11:41:42 GMT -5
I am not accusing anyone, but people will pay any price not to get caught. I do think CAL kept investigators from the staff because he didn't want his "practical jokes" discussed. Some were sadistic such as months before hiding his son in a closet and announcing he'd been kidnapped. Those present, which included his wife and the nurse, Betty Gow were terrified. It went on for at least 20 minutes while they frantically searched for the child. CAL produced him with a big hearty laugh. This was funny??? I think many women would have left him with child in tow for that. CAL, when he flew the mail, exchanged water for kerosene in a fellow pilots carafe. The pilot came in, took a swig and almost died at the hospital. This, also was funny? None of this proves one of his practical jokes resulted in his so's death, but as Amelia Earhart commented about him. he was a "strange fish."
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Post by Joe on Aug 29, 2019 12:17:56 GMT -5
I believe Lindbergh would have wanted all identified confederates charged and tried based on their actual level of complicity. He knew they got the right man, but as far as I know, never expressed the opinion that Hauptmann was the only one.
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Post by hurtelable on Aug 29, 2019 19:52:59 GMT -5
What is your source for this story? Hard to believe he could get away with this stunt without being criminally charged. He was far from the biggest celebrity in America at the time he was flying the mail.
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Post by Sue on Aug 31, 2019 10:54:40 GMT -5
I believe Red Herring 15's source for the story is in Lindbergh Alone by Brendan Gill.
However, there is a big difference between ALLEGATIONS and FACTS.
Are Lindbergh's alleged practical jokes perpetuated for decades after being told once?
Do the jokes just take on a life of their own after being repeated again and again?
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Post by Sue on Aug 31, 2019 11:09:18 GMT -5
In regard to Red Herring 15's quote from Amelia Earhart:
Did Earhart actually say Lindbergh was "a strange fish"?
Where is that quote?
The major irony here, if Earhart DID refer to Lindbergh as a "strange fish" is that there is a current belief that Amelia Earhart's corpse was eaten by coconut crabs.
Titanic discoverer Robert Ballard just finished up his search for Earhart's plane, but did not find the plane OR Amelia.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 20:52:49 GMT -5
What is your source for this story? Hard to believe he could get away with this stunt without being criminally charged. He was far from the biggest celebrity in America at the time he was flying the mail. The story of Bud Gurney drinking kerosene that Lindbergh had put in the water pitcher when he and Gurney were air mail pilots flying out of Lambert Field, St. Louis, is a true event. The first book in my possession that I found it referenced in is the excellent book: The Hero - Charles A. Lindbergh and The American Dream, written by Kenneth S. Davis and published by Doubleday and Company, Inc. in 1959. Davis relates on page 136 of Chapter 5, The Airmail Pilot, many of the practical jokes that CAL subjected his fellow pilots to but relates that the most notorious and cruel of these jokes was the kerosene incident with Gurney. As Major William Robertson of the Robertson Aircraft Corporation, which had the St. Louis to Chicago air mail contract, would say about this incident (CAL and Gurney worked for him), "What Bud went through immediately after that and what he said, will never be forgotten by him or his fellow pilots." Gurney was quite ill for some time. In Davis's chapter notes for this incidence he referenced several newspapers that carried the story in May of 1927. One of the men who talked about this to the newspapers was Harry H. Knight, who was an investor in the Spirit of St. Louis flight. Major Robertson's statements about this incident were quoted in Fife. In Leonard Mosley's book, Lindbergh - A Biography, his chapter notes (Chapter 6 Mail Run) relate that Gurney held no grudge against CAL over this kerosene incident that nearly killed him. These men would remain life-long friends, CAL passing away in 1974 and Gurney in 1982.
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Post by hurtelable on Aug 31, 2019 22:12:46 GMT -5
What is your source for this story? Hard to believe he could get away with this stunt without being criminally charged. He was far from the biggest celebrity in America at the time he was flying the mail. The story of Bud Gurney drinking kerosene that Lindbergh had put in the water pitcher when he and Gurney were air mail pilots flying out of Lambert Field, St. Louis, is a true event. The first book in my possession that I found it referenced in is the excellent book: The Hero - Charles A. Lindbergh and The American Dream, written by Kenneth S. Davis and published by Doubleday and Company, Inc. in 1959. Davis relates on page 136 of Chapter 5, The Airmail Pilot, many of the practical jokes that CAL subjected his fellow pilots to but relates that the most notorious and cruel of these jokes was the kerosene incident with Gurney. As Major William Robertson of the Robertson Aircraft Corporation, which had the St. Louis to Chicago air mail contract, would say about this incident (CAL and Gurney worked for him), "What Bud went through immediately after that and what he said, will never be forgotten by him or his fellow pilots." Gurney was quite ill for some time. In Davis's chapter notes for this incidence he referenced several newspapers that carried the story in May of 1927. One of the men who talked about this to the newspapers was Harry H. Knight, who was an investor in the Spirit of St. Louis flight. Major Robertson's statements about this incident were quoted in Fife. In Leonard Mosley's book, Lindbergh - A Biography, his chapter notes (Chapter 6 Mail Run) relate that Gurney held no grudge against CAL over this kerosene incident that nearly killed him. These men would remain life-long friends, CAL passing away in 1974 and Gurney in 1982. That Gurney fellow must have been somewhat weird too; he continued to be friendly with a guy who nearly killed him. Maybe this friendship with Lindbergh was Gurney's way of gaining access to other celebrities? Would you happen to know about Gurney's subsequent career?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 9:27:41 GMT -5
That Gurney fellow must have been somewhat weird too; he continued to be friendly with a guy who nearly killed him. Maybe this friendship with Lindbergh was Gurney's way of gaining access to other celebrities? Would you happen to know about Gurney's subsequent career? I can't speak to whether Gurney was a "weird" type of guy. What I have read about him does not reveal any kind of weirdness. I have read all the practical joking that was going on between all these aviators described as hazing. Lindbergh was on the receiving end a few times. There is a long list of "incidents" that went on. I am sure that not all the men involved with CAL during these early years, especially the men who had contact with CAL during the mail run days took what went on so lightly. It was Bud Gurney who knick-named CAL "Slim". Gurney spent his life in aviation. Lindbergh would go on to make his famous Paris flight and Gurney would continue working on planes and piloting. Gurney became a VIP pilot for Universal Aviation Corporation based in St. Louis. By 1929, he caught the attention of TAT (Transcontinental Air Transport). His friend CAL was a technical advisor for TAT so the paths of these two friends crossed again. Gurney signed on to the Lindbergh Line as a pilot. Piloting would dominate the rest of Gurney's professional career, retiring from United Airlines in 1965. In 1969, "Bud" and "Slim" wanted to fly together once more. Lindbergh was 68 at the time and Gurney was 64, I believe. They would, indeed, make such a flight which would be their last together. Here is a link to an "interview" that took place at the time these old friends were together in 1969. www.airspacemag.com/history-of-flight/slim-and-bud-9461697/
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Post by wolfman666 on Sept 3, 2019 8:38:28 GMT -5
good job sue I never saw that quote anywhere. but dosnt mean she didn't say it.
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