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Post by jack7 on Jul 11, 2019 12:17:13 GMT -5
Hey Dave - lots to talk about - gonna be at Sturgis?
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Post by jack7 on Jul 11, 2019 12:30:32 GMT -5
Might need some muscle. Sturgis timing would be OK, but they;re talking about changing the start date. I don't think they should - been many years - anyway, see ya later.
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Post by Michael on Jul 13, 2019 6:57:36 GMT -5
mike wernt we there when that guy gave us a tour years ago? Yes. "Mike" is the guy you mention. Also you, Sue, Gary, Frank, and myself. Was there anyone else? It was in '02 or '03 if you can believe it. Seems like yesterday.
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Post by wolfman666 on Jul 15, 2019 8:46:25 GMT -5
I forgot who else I know I came upon the verraznno bridge and the new York marathon had me jackass to bayonne on to 440 south.
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Post by leeforman2 on Jul 30, 2019 0:33:59 GMT -5
Never heard back -- Updated the folder on FLICKR...
I have also included some photos I scored of Isidor Fisch and Uhlig and an unknown.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2019 6:00:15 GMT -5
Sorry to hear that the owner still has not responded to you. It must be very frustrating!
Your pictures are awesome. I think you have located the correct spot. Thank you for updating your flicker site with those photos. The picture quality is excellent.
I have looked at Fisch photos at the archives. Very few of them are labeled with the identity of those persons in the picture or exactly what year the photos were taken. I have been trying to identify that third person (between Uhlig on left and Fisch on right) in the middle Fisch photo. No luck so far. If it were possible to get a date for that photo it would be helpful in trying to figure out who he is. Maybe Max Falek?? Don't really know.
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Post by Michael on Jul 30, 2019 7:34:42 GMT -5
Never heard back -- Updated the folder on FLICKR... I have also included some photos I scored of Isidor Fisch and Uhlig and an unknown. Without being there in person - these photos look definitely like the right spot to me.
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Post by leeforman2 on Aug 24, 2019 15:01:45 GMT -5
Hi all. I received permission from the owner. Very, very nice lady - and knowledgeable about the case.
We metal detected this morning. One hit - not in the general area - which turned out to be the broken top piece of a whiskey bottle. So - no luck on the thumb ring, or a bullet, or anything else that I was able to find. There was - in the open - a broken milk bottle - which seemed odd. I took some photos of it. Updated Flickr folder with some cool photos I scored of Uhlig and Wendel as well. I would love to know who that guy is between Uhlig and Fisch too - maybe he fits the description of the limping guy - but a small guy like this would be my man for any ladder climbing work. Once reason I was interested in Solomon Trager, the head of the lodge that Fisch belonged to - as he owned a window washing business. Just seems to make logical sense - someone that washes windows for a living in NYC is going to be quick on a ladder, and will be accustomed to positioning the ladder to the SIDE of the window - and working while hanging off the side of the ladder a bit - plus would have the Doc Condon thumb muscle. Anyway - very small update on that - which I will place on the Summit thread. One other comment - I tried to create my own sketch - because either the baby was discovered fairly closer to the road than anyone has let on [between say 30 - 40 feet maybe] or the landscape has shifted. If you enter the area from Princeton Hopewell Road at the guardrail - you come in a bit too far to the right [obviously] - but you immediately see that two streams converge - right there - and there is a very narrow strip - a very narrow triangle of rocky land, between the two streams. Now if you cross the stream and continue on - straight in - you will come to evidence of another stream [#3] and then another [#4]. So, assuming that the baby was found between stream 1 & 2 - I could easily hit a car on Hopewell Princeton Road with a rock from that location. Note that I did not continue on after the 4th stream - I didn't see much point.
I spent my focus on the areas shaded on the sketch. Disappointed that I didn't turn up anything of interest - but it sure was fun trying.
Sorry that the photos are all sort of jumbled around - mix of iPhone and Nikon shots - most of the shots are in and about the first targeted area - between Stream 1 & 2. I include a shot of Stream 3 & 4.
flic.kr/s/aHsmEcAzyN
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 9:53:27 GMT -5
As those of us who have been looking at this case know, a burlap bag was recovered in the location where the body of CAL Jr. was found. Much investigating was done about this bag. There were markings on it and the NJSP were hoping this bag might provide important leads in the investigation. I am posting one of the reports done on the origins of the bag. This report discusses local inquiries that were made concerning this bag. imgur.com/239OwZ1As suggested by one of vendors who the police consulted with, he recommended the NJSP contact a publication that is issued to the burlap bag industry. Col Schwarzkopf was quick to follow up on this suggestion. He wrote a letter the very next day to this publisher. Here is that letter. imgur.com/X6lbRUQThis bag had been examined by Squibb labs for any evidence that might be recovered from it. There were no blood stains found on this bag. There was a bone recovered from it, however. There is a great post written up on this recovered bone. It is in the archives section of this board. It was written by Rab (Robert Purdy) an excellent researcher on the Lindbergh Kidnaping case.
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Post by hurtelable on Nov 3, 2019 8:45:05 GMT -5
Aside from your getting the name of the doctor incorrectly (it was Dr. Van Ingen, not Dr. Ingram), you are correct in the description of BOTH SMALL TOES OVERLAP THE NEXT TOE in the letter to Mrs. Morrow.
However, in the autopsy report on the body found in the woods, Dr. Mitchell states that "the large toe of the right foot completely overlapped the first and second toe." (Quote form Noel Behn, Lindbergh: The Crime, paperback, p. 192). This description is absent from the Van Ingen letter. And furthermore, the right small toe overlapping the next toe, though present in the Van Ingen letter, is NOT included in the Mitchell autopsy report.
So Mitchell and Van Ingen, barring a gross error on the part of either of them or both of them, are describing two different children with two different right foot abnormalities of their respective toes. Recall also that Van Ingen refused to identify the body found in the woods as that of Charlie, despite police pressure to do so.
So anyone ruling out "discussion about the body not being him" is misunderstanding the facts and/or not reasoning logically.
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Post by leeforman2 on Dec 14, 2019 19:41:14 GMT -5
Thought I would add this bit I found on eBay. Bob Zorn had a team from some school, armed with some 8 metal detectors, go over the site - I spoke with him and he did not find the thumb ring. I metal detected after - and got only the one hit - the whiskey bottle neck - which was a bit further afield. After seeing this photo, it seems clear that the area was at least properly searched for the possible round. Attachments:
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