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Post by Joe on Feb 19, 2019 13:02:49 GMT -5
Over the weekend, I reorganized my LKC Files, which allowed me to cross-reference a lot of documents I'd collected in an unfiled folder. Within the attached link, are a couple of samples of Jacob Nosovitsky's known handwriting. Two reference words within them jumped out at me in relation to words which appear in the letter written to Dr. Erastus Mead Hudson. I've highlighted those words in yellow. I see other similarities which I believe are also significant and point to Nosovitsky as the author of the Dr. Hudson letter. Attachment DeletedWhat's very interesting is not only the likeness within the word "Hospital" but also in the fact that Nosovitsky signs his pseudo-name "John" as "Jhon" in a Supreme Court document, (Condon Lawsuit 1938) the exact same way it appears in the Hudson letter. Really.. who does that, except they're both the same person?
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Post by scathma on Feb 19, 2019 16:56:18 GMT -5
To me, the first use of the word "hospital" on page II looks even closer to the envelope, compared to the one you highlighted...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 18:11:27 GMT -5
I agree, scathma. The page II "hospital" in the text of the letter looks more like the envelope rendering. The capital "H", especially, in both those writings of hospital look very similar.
Joe, I do find the misspelling of John as "Jhon" to be most interesting. I find myself wondering why the heck Nosovitsky would misspell his name on a legal document.
So, I am wondering what the bigger picture is that prompted this post, if there is one. Do you see a tie in somehow with the LKC and Noso's handwriting?
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Post by Joe on Feb 20, 2019 7:23:56 GMT -5
To me, the first use of the word "hospital" on page II looks even closer to the envelope, compared to the one you highlighted... Yes, you're right and thanks for mentioning. I had meant to highlight the other "Hospital" as well and was in too much of a rush when I posted yesterday morning.
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Post by Joe on Feb 20, 2019 8:34:31 GMT -5
I agree, scathma. The page II "hospital" in the text of the letter looks more like the envelope rendering. The capital "H", especially, in both those writings of hospital look very similar. Joe, I do find the misspelling of John as "Jhon" to be most interesting. I find myself wondering why the heck Nosovitsky would misspell his name on a legal document. So, I am wondering what the bigger picture is that prompted this post, if there is one. Do you see a tie in somehow with the LKC and Noso's handwriting? I'm not sure at this point Amy, but over the years, I see much too long a shadow cast by this guy Nosovitsky for him not to have been involved somehow. He's the one character in this case, I'd love to pursue if I was going to write a book. Maybe I will when I retire! Regarding my initial post, you see this same type of potential connection from time to time with him, but very little that is consistent and sustained, or perhaps was ever adequately investigated. Certainly the overall picture painted is not as compelling as the kind of evidence that clearly demonstrates Hauptmann's involvement, ie. the ladder, handwriting, ransom money, etc., but I believe strongly in this case, where there's smoke there's fire. It appears the biggest X factor with Nosovitsky is his past association with J. Edgar Hoover, who obviously had a very large stake within the outcome of this case, and ensuring the lone wolf verdict, once established, was not compromised. If Nosovitsky went down as someone who was intimately involved or at least knew something before the kidnapping, Hoover no doubt would have considered it far too scandalous to put up with. A little high level protection can go a long way. I'm also intrigued by the timing, December 13, 1935, (hard to read the "5" but I think it aligns chronologically with Dr. Hudson's involvement) just 19 days before the "Faulkner Letter" of January 1, 1936. I don't believe the Faulkner Letter was penned by Nosovitsky, but that it could have been dictated by him to a woman associate. Letter to J. Edgar Hoover.pdf (47.26 KB) By the way, I'm not sure what the source of the above attached letter was other than some anonymous correspondence with J. Edgar Hoover dated December 26, 1934, but the way I see it, it's composed in a similar style of expression to the Faulkner Letter.
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Post by stella7 on Feb 20, 2019 11:36:39 GMT -5
Interesting, too, that he capitalizes the word hospital on page 2 when he doesn't need to.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 9:51:19 GMT -5
Regarding my initial post, you see this same type of potential connection from time to time with him, but very little that is consistent and sustained, or perhaps was ever adequately investigated. I have not touched on the Nosovitsky investigation files at the archives yet. There is such an enormous amount of material housed there! I need to clone myself several times to be able to look through the material there in a shorter amount of time than it took for Michael to do!! I do believe that there are several persons known during this investigation that needed to be looked at more extensively but were not. I have thought for quite sometime the possibility of, at least, initial involvement of someone like Nosovitsky; An intelligence agent who straddled both sides of the fence enabling him to organize such a huge undertaking and know how to keep a trail from leading directly back to anyone; Hand picking the right type of people to involve who understood secrecy would be paramount to the success of the crime; the ability to choose people who could work independent from the others and not put anyone at risk. What do you suppose would have been Nosovitsky's purpose in writing that letter to Dr. Hudson? I believe the police did check out that address and there was no Charlie to be found there. Why send the authorities on such a wild goose chase? This letter is well after Hauptmann's conviction and some of the appeal process had already been exhausted. Do you think it might have had anything to do with Gov. Hoffman's reinvestigation of the case getting started? I do like the thought that the J.J. Faulkner letter was dictated while someone else did the writing. This was being said about the ransom notes by some of the experts consulted on this case. That letter to J. Edgar Hoover you posted was interesting. It has a very commanding tone to it. Plus this person thinks the information they are providing is worthy of being awarded reward money! This person also seems to have it in for the Hauptmanns and Mrs. Chrisiansen, who I think is supposed to be Mrs. Fredericksen. If this person can't get that name right, how are we to believe there is anything factual in the other things being said in that letter? I wonder what, if any, follow up this letter would have received? I hope you will pursue doing a book on Nosovitsky. Besides this case, Noso has quite a backstory that would provide material for quite a few intriguing chapters!
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Post by hurtelable on Feb 22, 2019 12:27:25 GMT -5
(1) I've suspected, since reading Noel Behn's book, that Nosovitsky, user of aliases with "John" in them, could have been "Cemetery John."
(2) Joe, have you tried to compare the handwriting on the known Nosovitsky specimen you posted to the handwriting on the ransom notes?
(3) Note that in the known Nosovitsky specimen, some nouns are inappropriately capitalized as one might expect from a writer with a German language background. This correlates with what we know of Nosovitsky from other sources: that he had good German language skills which he put to use in his investigative work within the German-American community.
(4) I don't recall ever seeing the court documents from Noso's suit against Condon. Could someone possibly post images of these papers?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2019 13:46:27 GMT -5
(4) I don't recall ever seeing the court documents from Noso's suit against Condon. Could someone possibly post images of these papers? Here is a link to the page they are on. This was posted by feathers. Scroll down on the page and you will come to the documents. lindberghkidnap.proboards.com/thread/102/jj-nosovitsky?page=8
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Post by hurtelable on Feb 23, 2019 0:49:42 GMT -5
Thanks for the link, amy35. I'm tempted to think that Noso filed his defamation complaint, then Condon filed his answer denying everything, then the judge set a date for the hearing, at which time Noso didn't appear and so the case was dismissed. Now why didn't Noso show up for the hearing on his own case? Well, we know that Noso was beaten up in the meantime and was hospitalized as a result, as reported in at least one newspaper. One would think there's a decent possibility that Condon's goons did the dirty work on Noso to make sure that the defamation case would go nowhere.
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Post by Michael on Feb 23, 2019 13:13:16 GMT -5
I'm not sure at this point Amy, but over the years, I see much too long a shadow cast by this guy Nosovitsky for him not to have been involved somehow. He's the one character in this case, I'd love to pursue if I was going to write a book. Maybe I will when I retire! Regarding my initial post, you see this same type of potential connection from time to time with him, but very little that is consistent and sustained, or perhaps was ever adequately investigated. Certainly the overall picture painted is not as compelling as the kind of evidence that clearly demonstrates Hauptmann's involvement, ie. the ladder, handwriting, ransom money, etc., but I believe strongly in this case, where there's smoke there's fire. Joe, As you know Noso would be a monumental task but I hope you do. I also don't think you should wait until you retire either. Even if its to write down an outline then start adding facts "here and there" when you get the chance. Take my advice. Over the years there is so much you'll remember but will burn up time trying to re-find later on down the road. But if you've recorded it when you have it in front of you then you'll avoid a lot of future stress and aggravation.
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Post by hurtelable on Feb 26, 2019 17:37:51 GMT -5
I'm reposting this thought with respect to Nosovitsky's defamation suit against Condon in Bronx County Supreme Court in 1938. We know that Noso suffered a severe street beating after the suit was filed, sever enough to require hospitalization. Would anyone agree that Condon may have hired some goon(s) to beat up Noso in retaliation for the suit against him, attempting to intimidate Noso from proceeding further in the case? As it turned out, Noso never showed up in court for the next scheduled proceeding, so the case was dismissed. So if this is what occurred, Condon's mob-style tactic would have to be called successful from Condon's point of view.
Of course, Nosovitsky was involved in so many nefarious activities that there could be explanations, beside the case against Condon, for Noso to have been the victim of this type of assault.
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