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Post by jack7 on Aug 4, 2017 11:03:12 GMT -5
Oops! Re: above, scratch fingerprint, I meant handwriting analysis.
And in the earlier post "his wood" means wood that was planed by his plane.
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Post by wolfman666 on Aug 4, 2017 11:52:43 GMT -5
I understand mike I know there were newspaper wars and reporters camped oudside a few miles from the house. theres more info on the case then the njsp archives. new York city has many places to find documents and stuff. it costs more money but maybe newer stuff can be found. I think many researchers combed through the njsp archives and theres really nothing earth shattering to find there. that's just my opinion
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Post by julie0709 on Aug 4, 2017 11:53:03 GMT -5
Unless it was a typo I never wrote that. I know I've written, repeatedly, that even if he wrote those notes (I'm 50/50 on that), and built the ladder it does not place him in that nursery. "His" wood? Debatable. You mean Rails 12 & 13? Koehler himself disproved this before Hauptmann's arrest. So we have to believe him and not believe him simultaneously. Or ignore what we don't like. The nails? Debatable. The manufacturers said they weren't possible trace. Keith said it was. So again, we have to ignore what we don't like. Rail 16? I am satisfied it had been removed by the electricians, and that Rauch placed it in the basement with the other leftovers. So Hauptmann had access to it. This shows me that he most likely had a hand in building the ladder. Where? No one knows. It wasn't in the attic, and it wasn't in his garage. Find out where and we'll have another huge piece of the puzzle to discuss. On his tools: He never left any behind at Majestic. The police interviewed just about everyone (save one that died and one or two who moved away) and no one saw him building a ladder there. Ok according to the sources there was no witness seeing H building a ladder in his garage. There is no fingerprint evidence on the ladder. Keohler wrote at least two reports regarding his investigation of the ladder and flips his opinion after writing report two. Wilentz wanted irrefutable proof to tie evidence to BRH's home and garage. He wouldn't take no for an answer. So what we have is Keohler and Bornmann working in tandem to find evidence. Wilentz's evidence is a joke. The state's case is a mockery. It doesn't matter where Hauptmann's tools were or where they were kept. The tools themselves cannot be linked to building that particular ladder. Hauptmann cannot be linked by witnesses to building any ladder. Why would he build a ladder wearing leather gloves or rubber gloves? Doesn't make a lick of sense to me. Let's take a closer look at the scene of Frederickson's bakery and Hauptmann's circle. Is there anything or any body to physically put him into the crime? It's a great point when considering the specific print found mostly under Rung 11. It was not Hauptmann's. So maybe he did wear gloves - but the other guy did not.
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Post by wolfman666 on Aug 4, 2017 11:54:46 GMT -5
but amy that argument has been going on for years. the fact is rail 16 matches the attic board and fits perfectly when it was laid down on its original spot. I was up there the whole attic looks like rail 16 its the same wood.
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Post by wolfman666 on Aug 4, 2017 11:57:36 GMT -5
ghposts is a great book, the modern authors don't give there opinion on the case in there books so they have to say fisher is all wrong when there books really show a lot of dead ends and curve them for the reader to decide which is b.s.
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Post by wolfman666 on Aug 4, 2017 12:00:10 GMT -5
mike how do you know it wasn't done in the garage? that's the logical place, because being in the attic it was no place to build a ladder in trust me
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Post by kate1 on Aug 4, 2017 13:16:40 GMT -5
Still wonder why Lloyd Fisher believed in Hauptmann's innocence. There is no proof that that piece of wood was ever in that attic. Old wood is old wood. Why would a master carpenter use something that wasn't good quality to perform the crime of the century? And nails can't be traced!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2017 18:26:14 GMT -5
amy but the problem is a piece of that ladder came from hauptmanns attic and I don't think Lindbergh knew Bruno before the crime. to me it don't matter what ladder looked like what I agree that a piece of the wood did come from the attic. Some of that attic wood ended up in Rauch's basement. Hauptmann, being the thrifty guy he was, picked up some of that wood from the basement. Lindbergh didn't need to know Hauptmann in order for Hauptmann to build a ladder that looks like the ones I mentioned in a previous post.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2017 18:45:07 GMT -5
So again, we have to ignore what we don't like. Rail 16? I am satisfied it had been removed by the electricians, and that Rauch placed it in the basement with the other leftovers. So Hauptmann had access to it. This shows me that he most likely had a hand in building the ladder. Where? No one knows. It wasn't in the attic, and it wasn't in his garage. Find out where and we'll have another huge piece of the puzzle to discuss. I agree totally with what Michael says here. Just where the ladder was built might never be known. However, the Soil report done by Liz Pagel in 2004, helps us to know where the ladder had been based on the soils found on the ladder in 1932. Of the soils found on the kidnap ladder, we find only two places represented. The High Fields house with soil from under the nursery window being present on the ladder. The other place is soil from the Webster Ave. lowlands of the Bronx, NY. The Bronx soil matched closest to the area where Isidor Fisch lived at the time of the kidnapping: 532 E. 157th Street. This address is in the Webster Ave. lowlands. For me, its just another reason to look more closely at Fisch being involved with this crime.
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Post by kate1 on Aug 4, 2017 18:49:34 GMT -5
amy but the problem is a piece of that ladder came from hauptmanns attic and I don't think Lindbergh knew Bruno before the crime. to me it don't matter what ladder looked like what I agree that a piece of the wood did come from the attic. Some of that attic wood ended up in Rauch's basement. Hauptmann, being the thrifty guy he was, picked up some of that wood from the basement. Lindbergh didn't need to know Hauptmann in order for Hauptmann to build a ladder that looks like the ones I mentioned in a previous post. Amy, where did the info about the ladder wood being in Hauptmann's basement come from?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2017 19:01:54 GMT -5
Kate,
I think I read it in the trial transcript. If not, then it is mentioned on this board somewhere. I will check to make sure and get back to you.
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Post by Michael on Aug 4, 2017 19:08:39 GMT -5
You may have said it on the hoax site but it was when you were talking to a guy who claimed there was no evidence against Hauptmann except for extortion and you popped that line. Not particularly important. Kind of is to me since it's not a view I hold. How do you know BRH didn't build the ladder in his garage? There were tools missing used in it's construction that were not found in his garage and never located. Koehler even suggested it was built elsewhere. No one ever heard him working on it. When he worked on other projects he was. No one ever saw a ladder in the garage or around the premises. No one ever saw Hauptmann with a ladder or a ladder in his car. Unlike ransom money, that ladder would have been hard to hide. I think his tools were at the Majestic. Look at what you've got as far as him and Anna and witnesses to where HE was on 3/1/32, much less his tools. A mishmash of huhs. The investigations revealed that he brought his tools to Majestic. They also reveal that he brought his tools home from Majestic after he quit. Michael did you discuss the attic board in your book? No. I wanted to put it in V2 but I am running out of room. Not sure if it will make it but I'll have to wait and see. I understand mike I know there were newspaper wars and reporters camped oudside a few miles from the house. theres more info on the case then the njsp archives. new York city has many places to find documents and stuff. it costs more money but maybe newer stuff can be found. I think many researchers combed through the njsp archives and theres really nothing earth shattering to find there. that's just my opinion If you skim through my footnotes you will see I utilized multiple sources from various archives. So who do you know that went through the entire NJSP Archive? I don't know of any person. I'd also like to know exactly "when" since I had Mark open certain letters, reports, and other documents that were sealed with rusty staples. I've gone through boxes and materials that weren't even supposed to have Kidnapping material only to find there was. And so while I realize it puts me in the "crazy" category because while most people were at the beach on their vacations, I was at the NJSP Archives for the last 15 years of mine. Not only did I go through the entire archive I went through it all multiple times. Not sure what you consider "earth shattering" but for me the answers to the questions everyone wants to know is pretty important. And yes many are there because I've found them.
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Post by kate1 on Aug 4, 2017 19:29:15 GMT -5
Kate, I think I read it in the trial transcript. If not, then it is mentioned on this board somewhere. I will check to make sure and get back to you. Thanks Amy, you are such a help. I know Hauptmann's defense team was never allowed into that house to investigate themselves so I've always been skeptical of any wood evidence.
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Post by jack7 on Aug 4, 2017 22:38:03 GMT -5
When the board from the attic (rail 16) was removed and where BRH exactly got it from weren't known at the time of Richard's trial.
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Post by kate1 on Aug 5, 2017 5:49:09 GMT -5
When the board from the attic (rail 16) was removed and where BRH exactly got it from weren't known at the time of Richard's trial. This is the only place I've ever seen that....not in any of the books I remembered. My impression was the landlady didn't like the Hauptmann's very much.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 9:11:42 GMT -5
I agree that a piece of the wood did come from the attic. Some of that attic wood ended up in Rauch's basement. Hauptmann, being the thrifty guy he was, picked up some of that wood from the basement. Lindbergh didn't need to know Hauptmann in order for Hauptmann to build a ladder that looks like the ones I mentioned in a previous post. Amy, where did the info about the ladder wood being in Hauptmann's basement come from? The Hauptmanns moved into the Rauch apartment building in October of 1931. A licensed master plumber named Gustave Miller serviced this apartment building for Mrs. Rauch. Here are excerpts of his testimony from the Hauptmann trial. Trial Transcript Pages 3736 & 3737 - Direct examination by Defense Attorney Edward ReillyQ(Reilly) Now you had been down in Rauch's cellar many a time, hadn't you? A(Miller) Right.
Q(Reilly) Did you see any boards down there in Rauch's cellar? A(Miller) Yes, I did.
Q(Reilly) When? A(Miller) When I first went down there?
Q(Reilly) When was that? A(Miller) 1931
Q(Reilly) Will you please -- A(Miller) November, I went down; in November.
Q(Reilly) What was the occasion of your going there in November 1931? A(Miller) I was called by Mrs. Rauch.
Q(Reilly) And was it necessary for you to go into their cellar then on that visit? A(Miller) Yes.
Q(Reilly) Now what kind of boards did you see in the cellar please? A(Miller) Well, they looked to be about five inches, five or five and a half. There was two of them. They were on a slant.
Q(Reilly) Was the cellar divided into rooms? A(Miller) Well, you could really call one of them a room.
Q(Reilly) One was a room. Now, where did you see the two boards? A(Miller) Right in under the stairs.
Q(Reilly) Do you know anything about wood? A(Miller) Well, a little bit.
Q(Reilly) Could you give us a better description of the kind of wood you saw? A(Miller) Well, to tell you what I call floor roughing; roughing it is plain, ordinary wood.
Trial Transcript - Page 3738 - Attorney Reilly shows Miller a picture of board 226. Q(Reilly) Was that the board you saw, the two boards in the cellar or either one of them, in Rauch's in November 1931? A(Miller) It is a hard thing to say if that was the board.
Q(Reilly) I didn't ask you if that was the board. I asked you if that was of the same general description as that. A(Miller) Yes. They were rough. That is what you call rough flooring. There was a bead on it. It is something like that.
Q(Reilly) A bead on rough flooring? A(Miller) Yes, some of it have an L-lap.
Q(Reilly) And were the boards that you saw in November, 1931, in Rauch's cellar similar in appearance and description to this board that I show you? A(Miller) Right. It is about six-foot high, isn't it?
Q(Reilly) It is a little bit higher than that. A(Miller) Yeah.
Miller saw rough flooring boards in the cellar in 1931. You couple this with the Purdy-Klein theory and I think it explains how Hauptmann came to have attic wood available to him.
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Post by jack7 on Aug 5, 2017 11:29:47 GMT -5
So how and why did floorboards from the attic wind up in the common basement? Was there any confirmation that those boards were from the attic? That information was not determined until long after the trial.
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Post by kate1 on Aug 5, 2017 11:44:29 GMT -5
Amy, where did the info about the ladder wood being in Hauptmann's basement come from? The Hauptmanns moved into the Rauch apartment building in October of 1931. A licensed master plumber named Gustave Miller serviced this apartment building for Mrs. Rauch. Here are excerpts of his testimony from the Hauptmann trial. Trial Transcript Pages 3736 & 3737 - Direct examination by Defense Attorney Edward ReillyQ(Reilly) Now you had been down in Rauch's cellar many a time, hadn't you? A(Miller) Righ Q(Reilly) Did you see any boards down there in Rauch's cellar? A(Miller) Yes, I did.
Q(Reilly) When? A(Miller) When I first went down there?
Q(Reilly) When was that? A(Miller) 1931
Q(Reilly) Will you please -- A(Miller) November, I went down; in November.
Q(Reilly) What was the occasion of your going there in November 1931? A(Miller) I was called by Mrs. Rauch.
Q(Reilly) And was it necessary for you to go into their cellar then on that visit? A(Miller) Yes.
Q(Reilly) Now what kind of boards did you see in the cellar please? A(Miller) Well, they looked to be about five inches, five or five and a half. There was two of them. They were on a slant.
Q(Reilly) Was the cellar divided into rooms? A(Miller) Well, you could really call one of them a room.
Q(Reilly) One was a room. Now, where did you see the two boards? A(Miller) Right in under the stairs.
Q(Reilly) Do you know anything about wood? A(Miller) Well, a little bit.
Q(Reilly) Could you give us a better description of the kind of wood you saw? A(Miller) Well, to tell you what I call floor roughing; roughing it is plain, ordinary wood.
Trial Transcript - Page 3738 - Attorney Reilly shows Miller a picture of board 226. Q(Reilly) Was that the board you saw, the two boards in the cellar or either one of them, in Rauch's in November 1931? A(Miller) It is a hard thing to say if that was the board.
Q(Reilly) I didn't ask you if that was the board. I asked you if that was of the same general description as that. A(Miller) Yes. They were rough. That is what you call rough flooring. There was a bead on it. It is something like that.
Q(Reilly) A bead on rough flooring? A(Miller) Yes, some of it have an L-lap.
Q(Reilly) And were the boards that you saw in November, 1931, in Rauch's cellar similar in appearance and description to this board that I show you? A(Miller) Right. It is about six-foot high, isn't it?
Q(Reilly) It is a little bit higher than that. A(Miller) Yeah.
Miller saw rough flooring boards in the cellar in 1931. You couple this with the Purdy-Klein theory and I think it explains how Hauptmann came to have attic wood available to him. Amy thanks. What is The Purdy Klein theory?
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Post by kate1 on Aug 5, 2017 11:44:52 GMT -5
Amy, where did the info about the ladder wood being in Hauptmann's basement come from? The Hauptmanns moved into the Rauch apartment building in October of 1931. A licensed master plumber named Gustave Miller serviced this apartment building for Mrs. Rauch. Here are excerpts of his testimony from the Hauptmann trial. Trial Transcript Pages 3736 & 3737 - Direct examination by Defense Attorney Edward ReillyQ(Reilly) Now you had been down in Rauch's cellar many a time, hadn't you? A(Miller) Righ Q(Reilly) Did you see any boards down there in Rauch's cellar? A(Miller) Yes, I did.
Q(Reilly) When? A(Miller) When I first went down there?
Q(Reilly) When was that? A(Miller) 1931
Q(Reilly) Will you please -- A(Miller) November, I went down; in November.
Q(Reilly) What was the occasion of your going there in November 1931? A(Miller) I was called by Mrs. Rauch.
Q(Reilly) And was it necessary for you to go into their cellar then on that visit? A(Miller) Yes.
Q(Reilly) Now what kind of boards did you see in the cellar please? A(Miller) Well, they looked to be about five inches, five or five and a half. There was two of them. They were on a slant.
Q(Reilly) Was the cellar divided into rooms? A(Miller) Well, you could really call one of them a room.
Q(Reilly) One was a room. Now, where did you see the two boards? A(Miller) Right in under the stairs.
Q(Reilly) Do you know anything about wood? A(Miller) Well, a little bit.
Q(Reilly) Could you give us a better description of the kind of wood you saw? A(Miller) Well, to tell you what I call floor roughing; roughing it is plain, ordinary wood.
Trial Transcript - Page 3738 - Attorney Reilly shows Miller a picture of board 226. Q(Reilly) Was that the board you saw, the two boards in the cellar or either one of them, in Rauch's in November 1931? A(Miller) It is a hard thing to say if that was the board.
Q(Reilly) I didn't ask you if that was the board. I asked you if that was of the same general description as that. A(Miller) Yes. They were rough. That is what you call rough flooring. There was a bead on it. It is something like that.
Q(Reilly) A bead on rough flooring? A(Miller) Yes, some of it have an L-lap.
Q(Reilly) And were the boards that you saw in November, 1931, in Rauch's cellar similar in appearance and description to this board that I show you? A(Miller) Right. It is about six-foot high, isn't it?
Q(Reilly) It is a little bit higher than that. A(Miller) Yeah.
Miller saw rough flooring boards in the cellar in 1931. You couple this with the Purdy-Klein theory and I think it explains how Hauptmann came to have attic wood available to him. Amy thanks. What is The Purdy Klein theory?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 11:13:42 GMT -5
Amy thanks. What is The Purdy Klein theory? I think the best explanation of the Purdy-Klein theory about rail 16 is one that Michael wtote in a post he made July 8, 2010 when asked about how this piece of attic wood ended up with Hauptmann. Here is the quote from that post which comes from the Ransom/Finances section; BRH Ransom Yes-Kidnapping No thread: Michael How could rail 16 be from Hauptmann's attic and not know it? (Gary)
I have to give credit to both Rab AND Kevin for this one. They suggested (independently of one another) that board was cut by the Electricians to run the wiring.
Investigating this theory, I discovered the floor was laid before the electricians ran their wiring - some of which ran directly under where Rail 16 would have been. Electricians also would have sawn that board the way it was, that is, left extending past the joist (hanging off) and not flush, which according to Koehler's own testimony a Carpenter would have done. I also discovered that any left over materials were placed into the basement by Rauch. Kevin & I together at the NJSP Archives took a look at Rail 16 to see if the shadowing that existed on S-226 appeared on Rail 16. It didn't.
So it all fits, and makes perfect sense. Hauptmann went into the basement and removed any wood and/or items he wanted for his garage. This board finds its way into the ladder - just as Hauptmann suggested it would have since he had boards in his garage. The idea was nutty to him, and anyone else that he would go into his attic when boards were available in his garage.
I hope this helps, Kate!
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Post by kate1 on Aug 6, 2017 12:31:05 GMT -5
Amy thanks. What is The Purdy Klein theory? I think the best explanation of the Purdy-Klein theory about rail 16 is one that Michael wtote in a post he made July 8, 2010 when asked about how this piece of attic wood ended up with Hauptmann. Here is the quote from that post which comes from the Ransom/Finances section; BRH Ransom Yes-Kidnapping No thread: Michael How could rail 16 be from Hauptmann's attic and not know it? (Gary)
I have to give credit to both Rab AND Kevin for this one. They suggested (independently of one another) that board was cut by the Electricians to run the wiring.
Investigating this theory, I discovered the floor was laid before the electricians ran their wiring - some of which ran directly under where Rail 16 would have been. Electricians also would have sawn that board the way it was, that is, left extending past the joist (hanging off) and not flush, which according to Koehler's own testimony a Carpenter would have done. I also discovered that any left over materials were placed into the basement by Rauch. Kevin & I together at the NJSP Archives took a look at Rail 16 to see if the shadowing that existed on S-226 appeared on Rail 16. It didn't.
So it all fits, and makes perfect sense. Hauptmann went into the basement and removed any wood and/or items he wanted for his garage. This board finds its way into the ladder - just as Hauptmann suggested it would have since he had boards in his garage. The idea was nutty to him, and anyone else that he would go into his attic when boards were available in his garage.
I hope this helps, Kate! Oh yes Amy. Thank you! I remember Gary too. It is speculation though which is what we all do here somewhat.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 15:17:34 GMT -5
It is speculation though which is what we all do here somewhat. Perhaps it is, but then, so is Hauptmann going into the attic and cutting that board himself. That is unproven. None of Hauptmann's saws were shown to have made that saw cut at the end of board S226 that I am aware of. I think the boards in the basement and the electrician making that cut and removing the rail 16 wood from the attic makes more sense and has more support as a real possibility (trial testimony plus what Michael's post revealed) than Hauptmann going into the attic and cutting that piece of flooring.
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Post by jack7 on Aug 6, 2017 15:48:14 GMT -5
The electricians were never interviewed, but it all does make sense.
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Post by wolfman666 on Aug 7, 2017 9:28:06 GMT -5
well mike I was there before mark was there and there was researchers combing the stuff. at that time they were looking for evidence to see if Bruno was not guilty of the crime. I think bruno made the ladder in his garage. keraga thinks he built it in the attic. I disagree. being up there it would be very uncomfortable to do anything up there.
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Post by Michael on Aug 8, 2017 5:16:15 GMT -5
well mike I was there before mark was there and there was researchers combing the stuff. at that time they were looking for evidence to see if Bruno was not guilty of the crime. I think bruno made the ladder in his garage. keraga thinks he built it in the attic. I disagree. being up there it would be very uncomfortable to do anything up there. I'm not saying there weren't other Researchers Steve. I've run into plenty over the years. But when there's rusty staples, rusty paper clips, and string that disintegrates when being untied it's proof no one has seen them in a very long time. My point is that it cannot be determined that what's there and what isn't if someone hasn't looked. And by looking I don't mean a month or two because that isn't close to being enough. It just baffles me to see you say there's nothing earth shattering there when you haven't gone through everything yourself. I'm not God's gift to the case - I've been through everything numerous times - but everytime back through I find new material I missed. Again, I sometimes missed it because it wasn't important to me the previous time through. As one learns certain material becomes more (and less) important. Yes I certainly disagree about the attic because Mrs. Rauch would have heard it. The garage couldn't have been the place either. Someone would have seen it, the certain tools that were missing harm both the garage and attic possibilities. Finally, while anyone who thinks Koehler was right believes everything he said - they do tend to make an exception when it comes to where that ladder was built. Investigating this theory, I discovered the floor was laid before the electricians ran their wiring - some of which ran directly under where Rail 16 would have been. Electricians also would have sawn that board the way it was, that is, left extending past the joist (hanging off) and not flush, which according to Koehler's own testimony a Carpenter would have done. I also discovered that any left over materials were placed into the basement by Rauch. Kevin & I together at the NJSP Archives took a look at Rail 16 to see if the shadowing that existed on S-226 appeared on Rail 16. It didn't. Just wanted to fix to mistake I made above... Where it says " ...Koehler's own testimony a Carpenter would have done." His testimony was that a Carpenter would NOT have left the board hanging over the joist and would have cut it flush. Electricians wouldn't care how the board was left and only removed what they needed to in order to get their job done. It's just another fact to consider if one thinks it was Hauptmann. Obviously being a Carpenter himself, he wouldn't have left it that way.
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Post by jack7 on Aug 8, 2017 5:48:46 GMT -5
I think he made the ladder himself in his garage on 3/1/32 (Anna's night to work). If he'd have made it somewhere else, others (witnesses) would have known about it. He may have tested it against a tree in a vacant lot enroute to Hopewell, hence the odd soil sample. Because of his frugality, or faulty wood, he used the junk attic board from his basement (rail 16) for the upper section of the ladder. He didn't want to risk buying wood on the day before the night that he shocked the world. It turned out that he was completely unprepared and didn't know anything about the Lindbergh house, didn't even need the third ladder section, though he unwisely carried it up to the house with him. Where it was later found by Detective Bornmann and company.
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Post by kate1 on Aug 8, 2017 7:51:07 GMT -5
Are you saying you think the ladder wasn't made until the day of the kidnapping?
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Post by Joe on Aug 8, 2017 8:04:46 GMT -5
I think it's pretty hard to imagine a better place for him to have built that ladder than in his own garage where he had ready access to tools, vise and workbench. Aside from identifiable fingerprints, his mark of identity is all over it. His obvious involvement also seems a reasonable incentive to having built the garage after he moved in to his apartment in October of 1931. The timing is certainly interesting. Building anything larger than a breadbox and moving it from Point A to B will always run the risk of you being seen with it at some point. But you lessen the odds with a relatively secure garage and it would have been easy to load the finished ladder, nested in sections into his Dodge behind closed doors. Prior to March 1, most cars containing a ladder probably wouldn't have been given a second notice. Still, I think he was fortunate to get it all the way to Hopewell before it was noticed by eyewitnesses there.
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Post by jack7 on Aug 8, 2017 13:04:30 GMT -5
Yes, Kate. It seems the use of rail 16 shows immediacy, he had to get it built, coupled with his employment situation developing to much less than he was expecting. All things seem to come together including Anna's being away on that Tuesday evening and early night to where 3/1/32 was the time to act.
It's hard to think that his garage, where they were looking for evidence would be in the same condition and contain the same items when he was arrested as about two years earlier when the crime was committed. The nail match and the fact that the ladder nails were "professionally driven" alone are a lot to implicate Hauptmann.
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Post by julie0709 on Aug 8, 2017 16:43:28 GMT -5
It's interesting to note on Ronelle's board there is a post or something about uses for such a strange looking ladder. The post says that a ladder like it could have been used to help a person mount into the cabin of a plane while flat on the ground.
Also there was an investigation that went nowhere of a man named Shippell (Gardner CND) who lived near Hopewell, was psychotic and obsessive/compulsive who allegedly could climb "like a monkey". Wood of similar type was found in a shed along with burlap bags like the one found on Mt Rose road and a green sedan in a garage. Besides the construction crew that worked on Highfields, there must have been others capable of woodwork in the area who may have been overlooked.
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