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Post by Michael on Feb 10, 2017 17:09:03 GMT -5
Here is a great bit of research which also contains some unique photos I haven't seen before. There's also a fantastic video too! It's right off the press from the National Institute of Standards and Technology written by Rich Press, NIST Science Writer/Public Affairs Specialist:
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2017 8:44:54 GMT -5
Thanks for posting this great story! It is inspiring to other researchers of the Lindbergh case, such as yourself, when discoveries of this nature are made. It is a reminder that there is still information out there to find and that we should just keep looking!!
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Post by Michael on Feb 11, 2017 8:50:09 GMT -5
Thanks for posting this great story! It is inspiring to other researchers of the Lindbergh case, such as yourself, when discoveries of this nature are made. It is a reminder that there is still information out there to find and that we should just keep looking!! And yet another story about the boxes in the attic being thrown away!
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Post by wolfman666 on Feb 11, 2017 9:57:02 GMT -5
sue Campbell dug a lot of stuff about souder but I might have it buried myself
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2017 10:55:54 GMT -5
No doubt Sue would have lots of material on Wilmer Souder. Here is an interesting site that talks about the FBI laboratory with a picture of the personnel in the 1930's of which includes Souder. If you scroll to the bottom of the page you can click on the link to a memo from J Edgar Hoover's office praising Souder's efforts to develop this laboratory for the FBI plus acknowledgement of his contributions to the work he did in crime forensics. historicalgmen.squarespace.com/1932-fbi-lab-sa-charles-appe/
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Post by hurtelable on Feb 11, 2017 16:37:01 GMT -5
One thing doesn't quite mesh in this brief biography of Dr. Souder. He is a physicist with outstanding academic credentials and experience. Yet he is sent negatives of the ransom note writings to examine. Sure, he could have been outstanding at at what we call today forensic document examination, and in particular at determining if the same author wrote several different documents, but this is not a job that one would ordinarily give to a physicist. Had Souder any history of being a crackerjack forensic document examiner when he was given these ransom note specimens?
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Post by Michael on Feb 13, 2017 8:59:19 GMT -5
One thing doesn't quite mesh in this brief biography of Dr. Souder. He is a physicist with outstanding academic credentials and experience. Yet he is sent negatives of the ransom note writings to examine. Sure, he could have been outstanding at at what we call today forensic document examination, and in particular at determining if the same author wrote several different documents, but this is not a job that one would ordinarily give to a physicist. Had Souder any history of being a crackerjack forensic document examiner when he was given these ransom note specimens? Dr. Souder was also a "Metrologist." He was very successful in determining which typeface belonged to which typewriter. From this began his efforts concerning handwriting (or even possibly before). Authorities requested his help during the Black Tom Sabotage and his work there cemented his abilities among the Law Enforcement ranks. For those wondering, yes, I do have his material regarding the Adamson Case (Lindbergh Case). Here are his first observations:
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Post by hurtelable on Feb 14, 2017 9:35:55 GMT -5
Re Dr. Souter's letter to Schwarzkopf with respect to the ransom notes:
(1) Ironically, it was written on April 2, 1932, which was the very day the ransom was paid by Dr. Condon to Cemetery John. Therefore, there is no way that Souder had looked at ALL the eventual ransom notes at the time of his letter.
(2) Unless I'm overlooking something, there seems to be no reason (other than perhaps Condon's report of Italian being spoken during his telephone conversation) for Souder to include in his speculation that the ransom note writer could be Italian.
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Post by stella7 on Feb 14, 2017 15:52:50 GMT -5
Michael, who knew Condon was a go between by April 2nd? Would Dr. Souter have known?
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Post by Michael on Feb 14, 2017 17:36:49 GMT -5
Michael, who knew Condon was a go between by April 2nd? Would Dr. Souter have known? As to who knew what exactly when is a really hard question to answer. For example, Lt. Snook was the contact with the Bureau of Standards. Additionally, there were a couple of letters written to him about Dr. Souder's involvement by Director Burgess. It also appears that at least one trip was made by Snook to see Dr. Souder before April 2nd. Now, not every conversation or remark would make it into the reports, memos, or letters so I cannot sit here and say Snook did not fill him in at that time - only that I have no record of it. I will say the NJSP certainly trusted Souder who made every effort in the world to conceal the nature of what was going on. As you see with the name "Adamson" substituting for Lindbergh and a secret number of "T-67194" being assigned to the file. However, during Snook's trip in May, I have proof Dr. Souder absolutely knew about "Jafsie" (May 9th) because he offered up the opinion that whoever wrote the notes may have had a personal "liking for" him, and that it was possible he personally knew him or at least knew of his reputation. I hope this helps.
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