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Post by acondon on Jan 20, 2008 15:36:03 GMT -5
Does anyone know what years Nosovitsky was incarcerated on Rikers. I assume it was a prison farm then before the jail was built in 32 or 35. I am trying to figure out if Uncle Dinny was in jail at the same time as Noso. I read that Wally Stol was in jail at the same time as Noso. I did a goole search for Jacob Nosovitsky and found some interesting books on the subject. If anyone can pin down the years I would appreciate it. Pat books.google.com/books?q=jacob+nosovitsky&btnG=Search+Booksalso: www.king100.demon.co.uk/abdk/Resources/Trial%20of%20the%20Century.txt"While serving time for bigamy, Nosovitsky supposedly told convicts Wally Stoh and Arthur Graham that Dwight Morrow, Anne Lindbergh's father, owed him $50,000 dollars, and that he refused to pay. He talked about revenge kidnapping, saying that he would snatch child because "Children couldn't identify you" (Behn, 372). The NYPD was the main reason that he was not indicted, or even arrested because he was one of their informants (Behn, 373). Letters from J. Edgar Hoover dated 1935 and 1936 confirmed Nosovitsky was Faulkner, but denied he kidnapped the baby. The NYPD never turned over its files to the NJPD or the FBI (Behn, 374)."
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Post by Michael on Jan 21, 2008 8:12:32 GMT -5
Hi Patricia - here are some of his arrest records which should help out. If this still doesn't give you what you are looking for let me know and I'll search deeper into the files....
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Post by mairi on Jan 21, 2008 11:43:30 GMT -5
Pat Doyle and I were on the same wavelength . I was reading some of the same articles, last night. GoogleFaulkner: Coat of Arms shows falcon emerging from the heart of a man, with three blue stars. Meaning of name/Old English= Falconeer Falconi-(associated with B & C church)- Arms show (interpreted as) eagle Searched for, but with no luck, the meaning of name Nosovitsky. I need Sue's good search skills
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Post by mairi on Feb 3, 2008 14:45:10 GMT -5
Hi Joe, I think it was you who posted such a good collection of Faulkner connections up in Canada. This was a good while back. I have searched and searched for that again. It must have been on the other board. Should you have a clue to it 's location would you kindly transfer it to this board? Just came across Behn's ref to Noso maybe having a wife in Canada. It certainly appears that Noso and Faulkner were one and the same. Thanx.
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Post by rick3 on Feb 5, 2008 7:56:59 GMT -5
Hi Pat -- I found two answers to your question: - In Jesse Pelletreau's Article in True Detective Mysteries (August, 1936 Mysterious Mr. X of the ransom notes) : "Mr. Z first met Mr. X (Doc Noso) in 1927 when both were in prison together in a prison near New York City. Doc Noso was in on a bigamy charge, and Mr. Z was in for grand larceny. The two became fast friends and Doc Noso revealed his background to Z, that of secret service man in England and Russia.
"While we were in the pen" Z told Gus Lockwood, "this man suggested to me on several occasions, that i go in with him on a snatch in NJ. He said it couldnt go wrong because it involved the family of Dwight Morrow and Morrow would come thru with $50,000 he owed him on a deal he had pulled in Mexico". "Well, kidnapping wasnt my game. After I got out I waited for Doc Noso and we went into the cosmetic business together". Mr. Z. was living with his mother near to St. Raymonds Cemetary, where the Lindbergh ransom was paid a few years later. Doc Noso often visited Mr. Zs home, thus becoming familiar with the vicinity of St. Raymonds.
- Nosovitzky was transferred to Harts Island for bigamy on 24 February 1928.
- So, does Mr. Z fit the description of Uncle Dinny Doyle? or Wally Stroh?
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Post by Joe on Feb 9, 2008 20:57:59 GMT -5
Hi Mairi, sorry for not getting back right away, very lttle weekend at home these days..
Here are some articles from the January 16, 1936 edition of the Kitchener-Waterloo Record. I originally posted these at LindyKidnap in April, 2002. As far as I know, there are no US newpaper accounts of the Canadian Press (CP) stories. Similar accounts also appear in the major Montreal dailies of the day.
The last article originates from the Associated Press (AP) and appears to represent an attempt by Attorney-General Wilentz to dismiss the previous stories. Although I still fail to see a verifiable connection between Nosovitsky and Hauptmann, I believe this is one account where Wilentz knew far more than he was letting on and the clearing of the NY Faulkner street railway carpenter was a deliberate attempt to deflect attention from the Bulloch account.
THINKS HE KNOWS J.J. FAULKNER Montrealer Aware Of Identity of Man Who Passed Lindy Ransom Money
MONTREAL, Jan. 16 -(CP)- Convinced he knows the identity of the Lindbergh murder mystery, Alex Bulloch, Montreal motor car salesman, planned to leave for New York today to disclose to United States authorities details of his acquaintance with a man by the same name. Bulloch, with a half-dozen photographs of the man, said he hoped to discuss with authorities the possibility J.J. Faulkner under whose name part of the Lindbergh ransom money was deposited in a bank, was the man who spent a summer in the Laurentian Mountains in 1932.
Spent Much Money It was a mysterious, dissipated looking man about 36 years of age, that Bulloch described as the Jimmy Faulkner he spent five months with at St. Agathe, 70 miles north of Montreal. Letters written to Governor Hoffman over the signature of J.J. Faulkner were said to have been in the same hand as notes he had from his summer neighbour, a ready-spending man who "tossed away American $100 bills time after time." Telephone calls poured into the salesman's home until early today, one of them purportedly from David Wilentz, prosecutor at Bruno Hauptmann's trial. Others were from New York and Chicago newspapers, Bulloch said, seeking details of his story. Bulloch talked to one of the New York newspapers but was not home when the purported Wilentz' call came through.
Writing Similar It was only yesterday Bulloch came suddenly to the conclusion Faulkner was the man mentioned in the Lindbergh case. A mutual friend, he said, had brought him a facsimile of the letter to Governor Hoffman and immediately he recognized the handwriting as that of his friend, Jimmy Faulkner. Copies of the Hoffman letter and samples of Jimmy Faulkner's writing in a note to a Montreal lawyer "can't be told apart," said Bulloch. The lawyer, whose identity he declined to reveal and a number of friends agreed the writing was similar, he said. No mention of his suspicions had been made to police, the salesman said, as he considered the Montreal authorities would have no direct interest in the case.
Bundles of Money Bulloch said one day when he was in Faulkner's hotel room he saw "several bundles of money." The money was in small bundles and covered the bottom of the club bag Bulloch said, and Faulkner replied he "made a cleanup in the States" when asked "where in the hell did you get all the dough?"
Clarence Honey, manager of the hotel where Faulkner spent many evenings during his five month visit, and the cashier both confirmed what Bulloch said about his friend's ready spending. Honey also agreed with Bulloch's "rough estimate" Faulkner had spent about $3,500 before leaving the town "flat broke." Honey said he had seen the man in New York as late as last November, entering a Broadway night club. But prior to that, he had heard Faulkner was "broke" and had been "trying to get something to do" in Montreal, Toronto and Ottawa.
Known in Ottawa
OTTAWA, Jan. 16 -(CP)- A man named Jimmy Faulkner, believed to have come from Montreal, was a familiar figure in 1932 at the Bridge Club of Ottawa, R.E. Horner, a member, said today. Horner, executive of an automobile sales agency bearing his name, recalled Faulkner played frequently at the club during the winter of 1932. He said Faulkner, about 40 years old, was a "flashy dresser and had lots of dough." Faulkner left the city at the end of the winter, Horner said. He did not know where he went.
Nat Abelson, clothing merchant, produced an unredeemed promissory note he said Faulkner gave him when he purchased a suit in the winter of 1932. It was signed "J. Faulkner." The signature resembled almost identically that on the bridge club's register and on a reproduction of a deposit slip said to have been placed in a bank with some of the ransom money paid by Col. Charles A. Lindbergh at the time of the search for his kidnapped son.
Bridge Club Members Said Faulkner Frequently Paid His Gambling Debts in United States Bills. Wilentz Denies Reports
TRENTON, N.J., Jan. 16 -(CP)- David Wilentz, prosecutor at the Hauptmann trial, said today he "knows nothing" of Alex Bulloch, Montreal salesman, or the telephone call reported to have been put through from Wilentz to Bulloch last midnight. Bulloch believes a Jimmy Faulkner he knew at Ste. Agathe, Quebec, in 1932 is the "J.J. Faulkner" whose signature on a deposit slip for Lindbergh ransom money is a factor in the fight to save Bruno Hauptmann from the electric chair. Wilentz said a "John Jones" had attempted to put through a collect call to his home from Montreal. Not knowing any John Jones, he refused to accept the charges.
LINDBERGH CASE MAY BE FOOTBALL
TRENTON, N.J., Jan. 20 -(AP)- Attorney General Wilentz who obtained the conviction of Bruno Richard Hauptmann for the Lindbergh baby murder, disclosed a man by the name of J.J. Faulkner who ceased work as a carpenter for a street railway company in New York some weeks ago had been located and found to have nothing to do with the kidnapping and killing of Charles A. Lindbergh Jr.
The writing of this Faulkner, said Wilentz, bore no resemblance to that on a deposit slip found in the New York bank the day a batch of Lindbergh ransom notes was deposited.
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Post by acondon on Feb 11, 2008 6:12:07 GMT -5
Hello: First I want to thank Michael and everyone here for the information. It is GREAT. Yes, Mr. Z sounds like Dinny in as much as he lived with his mother a block from the spot where the ransom was handed over. It also sounds like Wally Stroh who was in the cosmetics business with Noso. There was also a Miller who was partnered in the Greeting Card factory.
Dinny was never a kidnapper. I knew it because as a kid I really loved him. He was great with children. He was old but always had patience for me. Played with me and was kind.
I wish we could learn more about Wally Stroh. Wally might be involved in extortion. The connection to Condon is uncanny. Dinny and Condon. Dr. Condon visited my Great Grandmother over near St. Raymonds frequently. But, go in with Dinny? Don't know.
Of course, Noso might have used Dinny for info about Condon. We know about the time he asked Dinny about him at Bickford's on Webster and Fordham road. Everyone in the area went to Bickfords, it was a family restaurant on the order of Horn and Hardarts.
Pat
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Post by acondon on Feb 11, 2008 6:22:10 GMT -5
I almost forgot to mention the coincidence that Nosovitzky was from Brooklyn, and weren't one or a couple of the ransom correspondence letters mailed from Brooklyn? Of course, Hauptmann could step onto the White Plains road subways or the number 4 train had wind up in Brooklyn.
Would Noso be that stupid to mail the letters from his "neighborhood?"
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Post by Michael on Feb 11, 2008 18:26:01 GMT -5
Patricia,
I love hearing about your recollection concerning your uncle Dinny. I think they are very important when looking at the big picture.
I have some info on Stroh I could post if you are interested. Unfortunately my scanner "blew up" over the weekend so I have to drag my butt down to Staples over the coming weekend to buy a new one... Or I could type out something specific you may be looking for.
Just let me know.
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Post by mairi on Feb 11, 2008 20:33:12 GMT -5
Hi Joe, So many thanks. I appreciate your reposting the Faulkner/Canada articles. I find it to be very interesting.
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Post by acondon on Feb 13, 2008 7:50:40 GMT -5
Hello Michael Thought this might interest some here. I found a photo of another Russian spy working Brit Intel and he looks a lot like Nosovitsky, uncanny how the two look alike. Thought some here might like to look and compare the two and give an opinion. Look at the photo of Noso below in the mug shot and compare Rosenbaum to Noso. Noso claimed to have been born in 1890 but some did not believe it. He looks much older for his years. Rosenbaum was reported to be born in 1875 or 74. Could be a brother. I did read where Nosovitsky's brother had been murdered by the communists. Rosenbaum was reported to be executed in 1925. There was some debate about the execution dates. Pat FYI compare members.tripod.com/chipress/chipress/reilly.htmlindberghkidnap.proboards56.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1200861363&page=1
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Post by acondon on Feb 15, 2008 6:13:53 GMT -5
Michael, I would love to have more information on Wally Stroh. Please do either post it or send it to me via email at dr_p_doyle@hotmail.com.
There was also another man from the Fordham section of the Bronx who was friends with Dinny, Wally and I think in the fur business with Noso, a man named Miller who was partner in the Greeting Card business where Dinny worked as a jigsawer.
I appreciate any info you have.
Pat
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Post by Michael on Feb 15, 2008 7:01:32 GMT -5
I would be happy to share. I will look up what's in my files and try to post. I have a new scanner but haven't hooked it up and, unfortunately, I may be moving again so I will try to hook up this information before I find myself in a position not to be able to - at least for a period of time.
Hopefully this weekend....
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Post by Michael on Feb 17, 2008 8:04:25 GMT -5
Wally Stroh and Nosovitsky served time together at Harts Island in NYC. Later, upon their release, they started some kind of business together on East 14th Street....something to do with shampoos and ointments, etc. According to Stroh the business tanked so they both went to work for the Eagle Detective Agency together: On several occasions Nosovitsky outlined the details of a kidnapping to me. Later Nosovitsky confided to me the prearranged plan of a New Jersey "Snatch," in which the name of Col. Chas. Lindbergh was mentioned and further confided to me the details concerning the plans of this "snatch," and asked me to go along with him on it. [Stroh Affidavit - March 24, 1936]
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Post by Joe on Feb 17, 2008 9:05:02 GMT -5
It would be difficult to give Stroh's story a lot of merit based on the scrambling that took place by Hoffman's team at the time of court of pardons session, January 1936. But he did give the same story to Gus Lockwood three and a half years earlier, and which appeared in the New York American. I'm pretty sure this meeting was at Henry Breckinridge's request but I can't locate the reference to Breckinridge's involvement right now. It was also about this time that a compaint was filed to the NYPD by Anna Sloane in which she claimed Nosovitsky was the Lindbergh kidnapper, so on one hand, this may have "inspired" Stroh in his account to Lockwood. It seems there's no question Nosovitsky and Stroh were fellow inmates at Hart's Island. Now if we could only determine where Duane Baker was incarcerated at the same time as Nosovitsky, that might open up a whole new chapter on this case.
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Post by acondon on Feb 17, 2008 17:47:47 GMT -5
Wow, great information. Maybe Dr. Condon knew about Stroh through Dinny and that was why Dr. Condon put the ad in the Bronx Home News.
BTW I found the following and wonder if Michael can dig up any background on Goodyear Tires vs Nosovitsky?
2 Documents found (1 - 2 shown) for Search: jacob AND nosovitsky New York Appellate Division Reports GOODYEAR TIRE & RUBBER COMPANY, INC. v. NOSOVITSKY, 206 App. Div. 695 (1923) May, 1923.
New York Appellate Division Reports GOODYEAR TIRE & RUBBER COMPANY, INC. v. NOSOVITSKY, 206 App. Div. 695 (1923) May, 1923.
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Post by acondon on Feb 17, 2008 18:15:45 GMT -5
If anyone has a NY Times archive membership this would really be of interest to the case. Hauptmann and Condon seen together several times in Bronx Restaurant? Probably Bickford's where Dinny, Wally, Nosovitsky and everyone frequented. FYI select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F70A16FA345C167B93C0AB1788D85F428385F9[Mar 22, 1936] The attorneys for Bruno Richard Hauptmann were investigating today reports that the convicted kidnap-murderer of Charles A. Lindbergh Jr. and Dr. John F. Condon had been seen in a Bronx restaurant several times prior to the kidnapping. The attorneys for Bruno Richard Hauptmann were investigating ... From HAUPTMANN LINK TO CONDON SOUGHT; Defense Investiga... - New York Times ($$) Related stories - Related web pages
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Post by Michael on Feb 21, 2008 20:05:34 GMT -5
I believe this stemmed from JN's retail auto tire & accessory buisness...
Apparently he obtained lines of credit based upon a financial status which was false. He then utilized these lines of credit to purchase merchandise, which he sold, but then failed to repay.
Joe knows a ton about JN and may be able to verify and/or add a little more. I will keep looking in the meantime.
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Post by Timothy Peare on Feb 28, 2008 11:28:48 GMT -5
HELLO, I WAS JUST GIVEN A HUGE PORTFOLIO OF PERSONAL COLLECTION OF MR. POPES CASE RECORDS AND FILES. ORIGINAL LETTERS AND DIAGRAMS NEWSPAPERS, PICTURES ETC. THE MAN WHO GAVE IT TO ME WANTS ME TO WELL IT FOR HIM AND IM LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO LET ME KNOW WHAT ITS WORTH. ALL ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS FROM 1935. THANKS TIM 908 246 0991 www.king100.demon.co.uk/abdk/Resources/Trial%20of%20the%20Century.txt"While serving time for bigamy, Nosovitsky supposedly told convicts Wally Stoh and Arthur Graham that Dwight Morrow, Anne Lindbergh's father, owed him $50,000 dollars, and that he refused to pay. He talked about revenge kidnapping, saying that he would snatch child because "Children couldn't identify you" (Behn, 372). The NYPD was the main reason that he was not indicted, or even arrested because he was one of their informants (Behn, 373). Letters from J. Edgar Hoover dated 1935 and 1936 confirmed Nosovitsky was Faulkner, but denied he kidnapped the baby. The NYPD never turned over its files to the NJPD or the FBI (Behn, 374)."[/quote]
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Post by rick3 on Feb 28, 2008 12:22:42 GMT -5
Good find Timothy--I'm certain the serious collectors can help you. I am interested in one paragraph from the letter enclosed:
Michael....is it true that some law enforcement went to St. Raymonds unnoticed?. The FBI files claim that two BOI Treasury Agents went along too? Maybe Frank Wilson and Elmer Irey? Were any of these secret agents the stooped-shouldered man with the hankerchief signalling to CAL?
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Post by Michael on Feb 28, 2008 16:29:04 GMT -5
I would be happy to give you my opinion...
My first reaction is to recommend it be donated to the NJSP Archives - I think the owner would receive a nice tax write-off.
But if that's not what he/she is looking for then the fact its Pope's stuff is important, however I would need to know exactly what you have in order to determine how much something might fetch. Another thing I would need to know is whether they are selling the entire collection or each piece individually. I am both a collector and a researcher so just about everything other then the newspapers would be things I would be interested in.
If you want you can email me or PM me so we can discuss offline. Your also welcome to scan and upload pictures of certain things and post them on this board in the General Discussion thread.
I am looking forward to hearing from you.
It should be remembered Judge Pope was part of the Defense Team (Reilly, Fisher, Pope, & Rosencranz) and tried his very best to keep the infamous "kidnap" ladder from being admitted into evidence.
According to Lt. Finn, Officers attempted to tail Lindbergh and Condon but their car broke down. In Schoenfeld's book, it claims Oliver himself tailed Lindbergh & Condon. This was brought to my attention by either (or both) Sue and/or Kevin. I have found nothing in any report to back this up and it seems very unlikely.
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Post by dena on Mar 5, 2008 0:28:57 GMT -5
Noso's orgins are gnawing at me. So I went to the Port of entry for NY (Ellis Island) did some deeper research. We know of the trips he made through in 1920 & 1919 obviously, but the mainfest for 1920 references a trip he made here in 1913. Which was more difficult to find. Although you guys are pretty good on here & have prob. already found. Noso's name was was spelled differently when he entered the Us in 1913 , "Naszkovitz". Had the name of a wife in new york listed too.(ANOTHER ONE! LOL). Still trying to decipher her name though . But this time I decided to try something different & not just look at passenger himself but also other passengers on ship as sometimes people travel in the company of another. Even spies. And I found something kind of intersting. When Noso entered US on 2 March 1920, another passenger only 3 entries above Nosos was a Scotsman named "James Duncan Keay". What was so interesting (or I thought so anyway) was that Mr Keay was listed as being a "rubber merchant" whose final destination was to be Akron, Ohio. Previously Mr Keay had lived in Ceylon, "Colombo". But what caught my eye is that Mr Keay worked for the "Good Year TYRE & Rubber company". Wasnt that the Company Noso was supposed to have worked for? Might be something or might be nothing. But I figure if I keep digging , sooner or later maybe I can connect the dots on some of Noso's shady friends & hopefully someday connect some of these people (albeit in a roundbout way) back to the key players. Nothing to lose trying, I figure.
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Post by dena on Mar 6, 2008 10:01:59 GMT -5
I have a little Noso chuckle. ;D I have been researching Noso's origins (Noso was indeed a wily one) & so I finally just contacted a family member in Detroit. She was really sweet & helpful & I appreciated her info. Well, shortly thereafter I receive a msg from Ancestor.com telling me I have now been added to the Nosovitzky family tree. I wrote to let her know that I was just doing research, and that she might want to take me off so as not to confuse any other researchers, so Im not sure whether I'm still on the family tree or not. I thought this was kind of funny & thought I would share.
Dena Nosovitzky
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Post by termitedoc on Mar 14, 2008 13:49:46 GMT -5
Hello: First I want to thank Michael and everyone here for the information. It is GREAT. Yes, Mr. Z sounds like Dinny in as much as he lived with his mother a block from the spot where the ransom was handed over. It also sounds like Wally Stroh who was in the cosmetics business with Noso. There was also a Miller who was partnered in the Greeting Card factory. Dinny was never a kidnapper. I knew it because as a kid I really loved him. He was great with children. He was old but always had patience for me. Played with me and was kind. I wish we could learn more about Wally Stroh. Wally might be involved in extortion. The connection to Condon is uncanny. Dinny and Condon. Dr. Condon visited my Great Grandmother over near St. Raymonds frequently. But, go in with Dinny? Don't know. Of course, Noso might have used Dinny for info about Condon. We know about the time he asked Dinny about him at Bickford's on Webster and Fordham road. Everyone in the area went to Bickfords, it was a family restaurant on the order of Horn and Hardarts. Pat Dena---Noso and Condon also connected to St. Raymonds!: "Well, kidnapping wasnt my game. After I got out I waited for Doc Noso and we went into the cosmetic business together". Mr. Z. was living with his mother near to St. Raymonds Cemetary, where the Lindbergh ransom was paid a few years later. Doc Noso often visited Mr. Zs home, thus becoming familiar with the vicinity of St. Raymonds." Mr. Z = Uncle Dinny
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Post by dena on Mar 14, 2008 17:46:33 GMT -5
No kidding??? Uncle Dinny lived close to St Raymond's? I didn't know that. And if Noso visited him there it means that St Raymonds was in his consciousness. And it was deserted. Maybe he figured many people wouldn't be strolling through the cemtery at night.
IMHO Uncle Dinny cleared a lot up, or tried to, but no in LE wanted to listen.
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Post by acondon on Mar 17, 2008 5:47:06 GMT -5
"Well, kidnapping wasnt my game. After I got out I waited for Doc Noso and we went into the cosmetic business together". Mr. Z. was living with his mother near to St. Raymonds Cemetary, where the Lindbergh ransom was paid a few years later. Doc Noso often visited Mr. Zs home, thus becoming familiar with the vicinity of St. Raymonds." Mr. Z = Uncle Dinny"
Hello:
It is possible. My Great Grandmother lived on Mayflower Ave about one block from the cemetery. Not far from Whittenmore Ave where Condon walked to deliver the ransom money.
Of course, there are other players with Dinny, Wally Stroh and Miller who was in business with Noso.
I don't know much about either Wally or Miller. However, Z does sound like Dinny Doyle.
Pat
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Post by rmc1971 on Mar 18, 2008 5:37:41 GMT -5
I always wondered how closely the paths of Noso and Gaston Means could be tied in their dealings with what eventually became the FBI.
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Post by dena on Mar 18, 2008 11:35:11 GMT -5
I found out something that is just a bit too conicidental for my taste. Living with Old Mother Elllen Condon (listed as head of household) & four of her other adult children who still lived at home with her (all single) in the 1900 census, at 882 East 169th st, was a man born in Italy named "Emilio Falconi". I have been reading hundreds of old census records for more than a week now & I have found "Falconi" to be an uncommon name. But this name was also one of Noso's aliases apparently. This Emilio Falconi was listed as being "head of household" yet lived at same address as the Condon family. I have found this before however, when a lodger was considered to be his own head of household. The important thing is was that he was living with the Condon family. And if JFC had some sort of ties to the Faulkner family on Balcom Ave by St Raymond's (and he did-having been young John Faulkner's teacher) and Noso used the name "JJ Faulkner" on the deposit slip....but another alias was "Falconi" & someone with the name of "Falconi" had lived with the Condon family at one time... I'll tell you where this leads. Right down another path that might send me in circles. Thats where. LOL But I do find this very odd. And Jane Emily Faulkner was not the only person living at 537 West 149th in 1920 with the surname of Faulkner. An "Isabella Weigner" who was married to an "Albin Weigner" (b Germany & elderly) whose occupation was listed as being a "musician" also lived there. And this Isabella's maiden name was Faulkner. Which is not a big surprise since she was living with Faulkners. My point being is that Jane Emily Faulkner Geissner & her elderly mother were not the only persons living there who had Faulkner in their name. I am closing in on the 1930 census for 537 West 149th St. There was no index for that census and one has to scroll through page by page. Hopefully that might tell me some more about some of the tenants of the Plymouth, as it was filled out only two short years before the kidnapping instead of the 12 year old census I have been trying to glean info from.
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Post by rick3 on Mar 18, 2008 14:00:44 GMT -5
I found out something that is just a bit too coincidental for my taste. Living with Old Mother Ellen Condon (listed as head of household) & four of her other adult children who still lived at home with her (all single) in the 1900 census, at 882 East 169th st, was a man born in Italy named "Emilio Falconi". I have been reading hundreds of old census records for more than a week now & I have found "Falconi" to be an uncommon name. But this name was also one of Noso's aliases apparently. This Emilio Falconi was listed as being "head of household" yet lived at same address as the Condon family. I have found this before however, when a lodger was considered to be his own head of household. The important thing is was that he was living with the Condon family. Dena....you are getting another exhault--Falconi is the other name for JJ Faulkner and solidifies the Italian Connection. Who says so--Mary Cerrita to Dunniger and Wright on page 92 of The Search for the Lindbergh Baby (paperback): " Thus there were at least four people identified in other phases of the LKC--Isador Fisch, Jafsie Condon, JJ Faulkner--also known as Falconi--and Violet Sharpe, who at various time had visited the little spiritualist Church (Temple) where Mary Magdalene Cerrita acted as a medium". II. Heres a fascinating post from Lindy Kidnap I never heard before... Is this why Condon claimed that "somebody murdered Fisch"? Dr. Condon Believes There were Three Men Involved in the Extortion Plot[/b]; Wants Fisch's Body Exhumed for Study! "I believe he was murdered"--JFC [/li][li] "Fisch, the other man (eg Henry Uhlig)and a woman went to Germany but only the other man and the woman came back? "Fisch died in Leipsig after being there only a short time?"--JFC The Newark Advocate 9-22-34 lindberghkidnap.proboards56.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1189774298
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Post by Michael on Mar 18, 2008 19:05:37 GMT -5
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